Something Greg Medford Said...

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In one of his recent video, I cant remeber which one, he was talking about titanium framelocks. He talked about how the titanium lockbar is obviously softer than the steel tang of the blade so when the lockbar engages the lock it will slowly slowly ewar further across and give you alter lockup. He then said that over a period of time, titanium, with multiple impacts of engaging the tang will get harder and harder. This all makes sense to me but my question is that does this mean with titanium framelocks, specifically striders, does the moving of the Ti lockbar across the tang of the blade slow down and eventually almost stop as the Ti gets harder and harder from all the impacts?
 
Not sure what you mean by "Harder", it's possible you could have a tool hardening effect? i've had two ti locks wear out on me and they didn't slow down much between 40 and 100 percent so I can't say anything there. With ti because its so much softer than the blade, the titanium "galls" or malforms and sticks to the steel on an atomic level, causing microscopic bits of the lock to shear off, hence the lockup moving later and later
 
I don't think so.. to no significant degree most likely. lock bar inserts and heat treatment would be more effective.
 
I would not listen to anything Greg Medford says.

I really, really, doubt that opening and closing a ti framelock is actually going to work harden the lock face.
 
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Observe your own knives and make your conclusions. Every Ti liner or frame lock I've had is very stable, the oldest is about 15 years old and was used hard. Was the lock bar face hardened on any of the knives? I know for sure it is on one knife. Lock bar movement, in my experience, usually means a screw somewhere is loose. Lock bar inserts solve a problem that is imaginary.
 
Bugout Bill said:
I would not listen to anything Greg Medford says.

I really, really, doubt that opening and closing a ti framelock is actually going to work harden the lock face.
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I'm not familiar with this guy. Is there some particular reason you think his words aren't worthy of consideration?
 
Bugout Bill said:
I would not listen to anything Greg Medford says.

I really, really, doubt that opening and clface.g a ti framelock is actually going to work harden the lock face.
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+1

Closing and opening Ti frame/liner lock will wear the Ti lock surface but it wont do enough force to work harden the lock face.

We shoud stop quoting maker's word as a fact. Some makers just has too much saleman's behaviour...
 
Not sure it will harden the lock face but after years of impact titanium might get compressed, that's when the lockbar became more stable, imo.^^
 
I dont see why the steel would get "harder" as spyderco lover said the lockbar continues to further engage because everytime you engage/disengage the lockbar you are losing microscopic pieces of metal
 
BLK said:
Not sure it will harden the lock face but after years of impact titanium might get compressed, that's when the lockbar became more stable, imo.^^
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That would be work hardening.

Gavin S. said:
So he's kinda Lynn Thompsonesque, in your opinion?
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No. Lynn Thompson is a blowhard, but his career is being a blowhard to sell cheap, foreign made knives. If he wasn't such a bombastic individual, I don't think Cold Steel would have been such a successful company.

Greg Medford is a blowhard who makes art knives very heavily inspired by Strider and sells them at exorbitant prices to collectors. He also likes to make up garbage like a titanium lockface work hardening itself under spinewhacks or whatever the hell he is saying.
 
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He didn't discover anything new, all he's doing is describing where "lock rock" comes from, very common knowledge.
 
I've been a machinist for a long time, it's been my experience that when you work harden something heat is usually the culprit(dull cutting tools, high cutting speed etc) when my smf was new the lock bar only contacted the lock face a small amount now that it's broken in and used the lock bar contacts the lock face almost the length of the lock bar witch in turn may slow down the wear on the lock bar simply because the same amount of work is being spread over a larger surface
 
Art_Vandeley said:
He's not a knifeguy. He doesn't carry a knife every day and doesn't see the point of it. He's a businessman and a pretty successful at that.
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as respectfully as possible, I disagree. I doubt any of us can say we carry a knife every single day. doesn't see the point of it? When did he say that exactly? I would agree he's a businessman, but also a knife maker. Argue if you would like to, but I honestly don't see how anyone can do things on the level he does without some sort of passion.

Cheers,
Kirby
 
9blades said:
as respectfully as possible, I disagree. I doubt any of us can say we carry a knife every single day. doesn't see the point of it? When did he say that exactly? I would agree he's a businessman, but also a knife maker. Argue if you would like to, but I honestly don't see how anyone can do things on the level he does without some sort of passion.

Cheers,
Kirby
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He said it in several of his videos. Can't remember which ones. He saw a market for the types of knives he manufactures and took advantage. nothing wrong with that he could've made easy enough rails or optics for firearms just as an example. He said it himself he lacks the passion for knives like Chris Reeve or Rick Hinderer has. That doesn't take away that his products are pretty solid and sought after.
 
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