Something I will never use a knife for

[redsquid2]

Stealing fresh kill from lions.

A couple of years ago, I was watching some wildlife show, and this South African biologist walks up to a freshly killed animal. The lion that killed it is lying in the grass, watching, from about 50 yards away. The guy just squats down, right next to the kill, pulls out his knife, and slices himself a hunk of meat and starts eating. He's talking to the camera, eating, keeping an eye on the lion. I can't find that on the Internet, but I did find the link below.

The people in this video are like, "Sometimes we share our kill with the lions, and sometimes we take some of theirs."

Not something I will ever do.

http://bfreenews.com/bfn/showonenews?id=174663&s=1&f=3

 

[brets-ftw]

I suppose if the lion is full there isn't much to worry about, but it would make for a hell of a story. Thanks for sharing

 

[Shorttime]

Face down a Grizzly bear.

Search it if you don't believe me. People go woods walking with .357's for bears, and after seeing some stuff on 'Tube, I wouldn't go with anything less than a .44, and a fifty would be better.

With just a knife, you're snack food.

 

[Goosey]

Face down a Grizzly bear.

Search it if you don't believe me. People go woods walking with .357's for bears, and after seeing some stuff on 'Tube, I wouldn't go with anything less than a .44, and a fifty would be better.

With just a knife, you're snack food.

I bet that biologist had a PH standing behind him with a 470

 

[Bill1170]

I bet that biologist had a PH standing behind him with a 470

Professional Hunter?

 

[killgar]

People often do very stupid things. Somtimes they do them ON camera. Sometimes they do them FOR the camera.

Sometimes people will take great risks to be famous. And sometimes they pay dearly for it. Sometimes they pay with their lives.

Youtube, or as I call it "The Darwin Chronicles", features many such people.

 

[jackknife]

I guess this is where the phrase "stupid is, as stupid does," has some meaning?
Carl.

 

[manowar669]

I read a lot of threads on here where people want "survival knives" and then suggest giant 6"++ knives for splitting wood and such. That's stupid. That's something I will never do with a knife. I can survive fine in the woods with a 3.5" knife, probably a lot less.

 

[redsquid2]

I read a lot of threads on here where people want "survival knives" and then suggest giant 6"++ knives for splitting wood and such. That's stupid. That's something I will never do with a knife. I can survive fine in the woods with a 3.5" knife, probably a lot less.

I am perplexed by the idea that you need a bigger knife to hunt bigger game. For skinning and most butchering, I would want about a 3.25" blade.

For general survival, it's hard to beat a puukko. Those have an average blade of 3.75 to 4"blade? And they were used for hundreds of years to do just about everything that had to be done in the frozen wilds of Finland.

Those guys who need Rambo knives are just trying to compensate for the inadequacies of their maleness.

 

[Curtis_Lowe]

People often do very stupid things. Somtimes they do them ON camera. Sometimes they do them FOR the camera.

Sometimes people will take great risks to be famous. And sometimes they pay dearly for it. Sometimes they pay with their lives.

Youtube, or as I call it "The Darwin Chronicles", features many such people.

"… I’m just saying let’s remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out." George Carlin

"And that's all I have to say about that."

 

[MACHAVEN]

Stealing fresh kill from lions.

A couple of years ago, I was watching some wildlife show, and this South African biologist walks up to a freshly killed animal. The lion that killed it is lying in the grass, watching, from about 50 yards away. The guy just squats down, right next to the kill, pulls out his knife, and slices himself a hunk of meat and starts eating. He's talking to the camera, eating, keeping an eye on the lion. I can't find that on the Internet, but I did find the link below.
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The people in this video are like, "Sometimes we share our kill with the lions, and sometimes we take some of theirs."

Not something I will ever do.

http://bfreenews.com/bfn/showonenews?id=174663&s=1&f=3

I' ve heard of similar activities from an old man that was drilling our borehole. He was working in a game park and was surprised by his workers having fresh meat. He asked them where they got it and did not believe them when they explained themselves. He asked them to show him and they did. They wait till the lions have had their fill. When the "mood" is right they walk in confidently and cut the meat they want. They grew up in a remote area and lived close to nature, giving them confidence and know how to take meat from a lion. I' ve heard similar stories from other African tribesman.

 

[shecky]

I can safely say I'll never use a knife to steal a fresh kill from a lion, too.

 

[ADDICTEDD]

I'll never use a knife to shop through a brick

 

[Ramil839]

I am perplexed by the idea that you need a bigger knife to hunt bigger game. For skinning and most butchering, I would want about a 3.25" blade.

For general survival, it's hard to beat a puukko. Those have an average blade of 3.75 to 4"blade? And they were used for hundreds of years to do just about everything that had to be done in the frozen wilds of Finland.

Those guys who need Rambo knives are just trying to compensate for the inadequacies of their maleness.

What if i carry a large blade and a small skinner on the same belt ?

 

[killgar]

I' ve heard of similar activities from an old man that was drilling our borehole. He was working in a game park and was surprised by his workers having fresh meat. He asked them where they got it and did not believe them when they explained themselves. He asked them to show him and they did. They wait till the lions have had their fill. When the "mood" is right they walk in confidently and cut the meat they want. They grew up in a remote area and lived close to nature, giving them confidence and know how to take meat from a lion. I' ve heard similar stories from other African tribesman.

I wonder how many hunters who utilize such a method never make it back to camp, or back to their village. Sometimes a method of doing something will work great, right up until the moment it gets you killed. Then it wasn't so great.

My knowledge of lions and Africa come only from nature shows, but from what I've seen, fresh kills will attract a wide variety of predators and scavengers, many will hide nearby waiting for a chance to grab some meat for themselves. What an unpleasant surprise it would be to steal a slab of meat from a pride of hungry lions, and as you sneak away with your prize, you are attacked and killed by a pack of hyenas hidind nearby in the tall grass. Walking away from a fresh kill in Africa with a chunk of bloody meat in ones hands sounds a lot like swimming in shark infested waters with a bloody fish tied around ones neck.

 

[Emanuel]

I wonder how many hunters who utilize such a method never make it back to camp, or back to their village. Sometimes a method of doing something will work great, right up until the moment it gets you killed. Then it wasn't so great.

Indeed. Sometimes (not always though, by any stretch) we, in the West, have a tendancy to apply a certain level of unrealistic romanticism to the traditions of indigenous peoples. At the end of the day, just because XX tribesmen from XX country do something it doesn't automatically mean it's a particularly good idea.

 

[PB Wilson]

Could the lions be conditioned to connect people with guns and fear? I wonder if that would make them ready for a hasty retreat until they could reassess the threat.

 

[meanwhile]

I read a lot of threads on here where people want "survival knives" and then suggest giant 6"++ knives for splitting wood and such. That's stupid. That's something I will never do with a knife.

Then if you're trying to make a camp fire with the sort of rain saturated wood you find in the Pacific NW or the UK at the wrong time of year, you will probably fail and certainly struggle. To say that no one needs a +6 inch knife is even sillier than those people who use BK2s to do jobs a Mora is better for. If you need to split thick wood for dry tinder, a large knife is useful. They're also great for making feather sticks used draw knife style.

I can survive fine in the woods with a 3.5" knife, probably a lot less.

You can survive fine in the conditions that you are used to. But you're not some universal survival expert who has experienced absolutely everything: another example of the need for a large knife is the use of a leukku for slicing pine branches in the cold - one chop will do them, but with a puukko they're an absolute devil. Are you really going to claim to know more about how to survive in a Scandanavian winter than the Sammi? And Finns and Swedes favour Hukaris - cleaverlike things that chop and split like a large Busse (but cost a lot less) - too.

That said, for what I do "surviving" in the outdoors I've never needed more than a SAK. I just don't mistake my needs for those of the entire world.

 

[meanwhile]

I' ve heard of similar activities from an old man that was drilling our borehole. He was working in a game park and was surprised by his workers having fresh meat. He asked them where they got it and did not believe them when they explained themselves. He asked them to show him and they did. They wait till the lions have had their fill. When the "mood" is right they walk in confidently and cut the meat they want. They grew up in a remote area and lived close to nature, giving them confidence and know how to take meat from a lion. I' ve heard similar stories from other African tribesman.

According to recent research, proto-humans probably evolved their first tools to make them better scavengers - so that they could race in after the lions had got their share, cut meat off a carcass with a flint knife while deterring hyenas with a spear, and then retreat.

 

[meanwhile]

I am perplexed by the idea that you need a bigger knife to hunt bigger game. For skinning and most butchering, I would want about a 3.25" blade.

For general survival, it's hard to beat a puukko. Those have an average blade of 3.75 to 4"blade? And they were used for hundreds of years to do just about everything that had to be done in the frozen wilds of Finland.

This is ignorant nonsense. Anyone trying to survive in said frozen wilds with a puukko alone was in a desperate position; the puukko was evolved as part of a team - it was to be used with at least one and often two of a hukari, leukku, and axe. If you look at a modern attempt by people who live in that environment to produce a standalone knife then the main candidate is the M95 "Sissipuukko" (rough translation "Ranger knife") - which is almost 11 inches long:

And this is a hukari:

I'll just assume that you know what a leukku and axe look like if that's ok.

Those guys who need Rambo knives are just trying to compensate for the inadequacies of their maleness.

This is certainly arguable, just as it is of people who buy expensive knives to do a job a cheap knife can do, and of people who make ridiculous posts about subjects they know nothing about, including how puukos are used as Arctic survival tools...