Something more traditional

JayDeep

JayDeep

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So like many I grew up with my father who was a hunter and always had 3 types of knives. A SAK for daily carry to work, a Buck 110 for hunting folder, and a Case Stockman/Trapper type with stag horn scales.

Lately I've been feeling rather nostalgic and wanting for something like this, but being me I still want something with a bit of flare. I searched around and first though I wanted something with upgraded steel. Was close to pulling the proverbial trigger on the Buck 110 Elite in S30V, but couldn't completely fall for it. I kept searching and found many a cool looking Case, but nothing reached out and screamed "must have". Then i found this and, well, it's on its way of course...

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JayDeep said:
So like many I grew up with my father who was a hunter and always had 3 types of knives. A SAK for daily carry to work, a Buck 110 for hunting folder, and a Case Stockman/Trapper type with stag horn scales.

Lately I've been feeling rather nostalgic and wanting for something like this, but being me I still want something with a bit of flare. I searched around and first though I wanted something with upgraded steel. Was close to pulling the proverbial trigger on the Buck 110 Elite in S30V, but couldn't completely fall for it. I kept searching and found many a cool looking Case, but nothing reached out and screamed "must have". Then i found this and, well, it's on its way of course...

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Damascus is pretty vulnerable to corrosion, so you have to wax or oil it up.
 
You have now entered the world of “moditionals”….modern traditionals

Lots of good info here on the forums…search “modern traditionals’ or “moditionals”. Viper and Lionsteel are 2 companies that make models popular with forum members

Nice looking Bear & Sons. Let us know what you think when you get a chance
 
awesome14 said:
Damascus is pretty vulnerable to corrosion, so you have to wax or oil it up.
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What I'm seeing is a black coating of sorts though, am I wrong? Is that simply a result from some sort of acid etch? If it is a coating I'm guessing that should aid in corrosion resistance no?
 
awesome14 said:
Damascus is pretty vulnerable to corrosion, so you have to wax or oil it up.
JayDeep said:
What I'm seeing is a black coating of sorts though, am I wrong? Is that simply a result from some sort of acid etch? If it is a coating I'm guessing that should aid in corrosion resistance no?
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Damascus is no more or less vulnerable to corrosion than the steel its made from, just like any other knife blade.....
and yes, the pattern is created by applying acid to to the blade. The acid darkens the layers that are less resistant to corrosion. On a normal carbon steel blade that oxidizing process would be called forcing a patina.
 
That’s very cool. Being a Spyderco devotee I love the thumb hole. I just picked up a D-Rocket Jupiter another kinda traditional modern mix. I think we are living in the heyday of pocket knives. I’m 66 year’s old and have never seen the phenomenal variety of designs and materials of construction we’re seeing today. The only drawback is too many knives and not enough money!
 
Arathol said:
Damascus is no more or less vulnerable to corrosion than the steel its made from, just like any other knife blade.....
and yes, the pattern is created by applying acid to to the blade. The acid darkens the layers that are less resistant to corrosion. On a normal carbon steel blade that oxidizing process would be called forcing a patina.
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So am I correct in thinking that the blade is already pretty well defended against corrosion because of this coating?
 
mobilerd said:
That’s very cool. Being a Spyderco devotee I love the thumb hole. I just picked up a D-Rocket Jupiter another kinda traditional modern mix. I think we are living in the heyday of pocket knives. I’m 66 year’s old and have never seen the phenomenal variety of designs and materials of construction we’re seeing today. The only drawback is too many knives and not enough money!
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Couldn't gave put it better myself. Correct conclusion sir! Ahs I agree about the Spyderco look, that's definitely part of the draw for me.
 
Nice, I also like the hole, keeps in line with the look far more than a stud. This is why I want to have Spyderco blades placed into my SAK, to meld the old and new. I have a K390 Wharncliffe Dfly blade, and a HAP40 Ladybug put away for just that purpose.

SAKs kind of ruined multi-blade slipjoints for me, which is why I want a few SAKs with different blade shapes.
 
Hashishiin said:
Nice, I also like the hole, keeps in line with the look far more than a stud. This is why I want to have Spyderco blades placed into my SAK, to meld the old and new. I have a K390 Wharncliffe Dfly blade, and a HAP40 Ladybug put away for just that purpose.

SAKs kind of ruined multi-blade slipjoints for me, which is why I want a few SAKs with different blade shapes.
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Nice I've got one of those one order right now...A1. F2S Custom Dragonox Cadet X VG-10.jpg
 
Ron Sabbagh said:
You have now entered the world of “moditionals”….modern traditionals

Lots of good info here on the forums…search “modern traditionals’ or “moditionals”. Viper and Lionsteel are 2 companies that make models popular with forum members

Nice looking Bear & Sons. Let us know what you think when you get a chance
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Off topic, but this needs to be a bigger thing with cars and watches. And guns too. Classic designs + modern materials, fit and finish, specs.
 
mobilerd said:
Photoshop???
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Nope. Dragonfly blade modded to fit Cadet X SAK. Done by Cody at F2S Customs. They come in 3 different size options and everything is custom, you choose the tools, the width, the scales, and the blade material (if there is an option there). The tiny 54mm SAK, which uses a really cheap Spyderco steel replacement (3cr...) so I see no point, the 84mm SAK and the 91mm SAK. I went with the VG10 Dragonfly option on 84mm, kind of wishing I'd gone S30V now, but VG10 is fine.

The biggest negative is that he takes almost a full year to put them together as he's that far booked out. There's another guy I found that does them on Instagram, but I had already made my purchase so didn't bother looking into his lead times.

There's also the ASK knife guys. I had one and hated it. The springs were literally so stiff I couldn't deploy the blade or tools. They bent my fingernails backward every time. Worst knife I ever bought. If you've got strong nails I'm sure they're amazing, Magnacut blade and super robust tool options, also highly customizable. If not, don't do it! Let me be your cautionary tale.
 
DangerZone98 said:
Off topic, but this needs to be a bigger thing with cars and watches. And guns too. Classic designs + modern materials, fit and finish, specs.
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Really? I feel like it already is. Camaro, Mustang, Broncos, Challenger to name a few are all going with that throwback design, but modern tech.

Same goes for watches. Every other manufacturer out there is all about "retro" or vintage design. Breitling to name one that's for sure latched onto this concept recently.
 
JayDeep said:
Really? I feel like it already is. Camaro, Mustang, Broncos, Challenger to name a few are all going with that throwback design, but modern tech.

Same goes for watches. Every other manufacturer out there is all about "retro" or vintage design. Breitling to name one that's for sure latched onto this concept recently.
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I’d love to see the 69 Mustang body with a modern engine fresh from the factory. 😄

Agree with watches! The Seiko diver reissues are quite nice. Still waiting for a Casiotron 70s era reissue though.
 
JayDeep said:
What I'm seeing is a black coating of sorts though, am I wrong? Is that simply a result from some sort of acid etch? If it is a coating I'm guessing that should aid in corrosion resistance no?
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Way to tell if actual layered Damascus or an acid etch:
Inspect the sharpened edge bevel under good light. (a lupe  may be required) If you see the Damascus pattern in/on the shiny honed portion of the bevel, it is layered damascus. If not, it is an etch.
Note that layered Damascus is always acid etched to bring out the pattern. Each of the two or more steels used reacts differently to the acid.

FWIW, I would not be surprised if it is layered Damascus.

Since the acid etch is basically a forced patina, the chances of the blade developing active red rust are slim.
This Case with a layered Damascus blade hasn't been oiled in the 3 years plus however many months I've had it. So far as I know, it has never been waxed. I suppose the person who gave it to me could have waxed it. However, if he did, that wax coating was worn off inside the first week I had, carried, and used it as part of my EDC.

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