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I read Kit Carson's autobiography (Kit Carson's Own Story of his Life) today.

With all the focus on food and spending this time of year, this kind of struck me...

"It has now been sixteen years, I have been in the mountains. The greater part of that time passed far from the habitations of civilized man, and receiving no other food than that which I could procure with my rifle. Perhaps, once a year, I would have a meal, consisting of bread, meat, sugar and coffee, would consider it a luxury. Sugar and coffee could be purchased at the rendezvous for two dollars per pint, and flour for one dollar per pint." - Kit Carson

P.S. Kit Carson has always been my favorite historical figure.
 
He makes some great knives, too! :D

I wonder sometimes why people like Kit Carson, Daniel Boone, Davey Crockett don't get more stories told about them, TV and movies, instead of the totally fictitious and often ridiculous "heroes" that our entertainers provide.

In all seriousness, too many people today have no idea how independent even our recent ancestors were of anything they couldn't hunt, grow, or make for themselves. Exotic foods like coffee, tea, and sugar were rare luxuries.

During Prohibition, my grandfather made wine for the family's use. (The Bible said it was all right to do that! :p )
 
Esav Benyamin said:
<snip> (The Bible said it was all right to do that! :p )

:grumpy:
The bible said a lot of things were all right, even required.
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Daniel Boone as a congressman once voted against a bill rewarding a national hero (As best I recall) saying "It isn't our money to give away."
 
My favorite thing about those two guys is that they were successful, had been congressmen, when they marched to texas and fought a hopeless battle to the death. Todays congressmen wouldn't march to....any damn where. They wouldn't march period. And as for taking up arms for someone elses cause and fighting...whatever. Not a one would. Can you see Teddy Kennedy behind a berm of earth waiting to be overrun. Just to be evenly speaking here Delay wouldn't do it either. Sheit they'd drown in their own puddle of urine.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
He makes some great knives, too! :D

I wonder sometimes why people like Kit Carson, Daniel Boone, Davey Crockett don't get more stories told about them, TV and movies, instead of the totally fictitious and often ridiculous "heroes" that our entertainers provide.
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It's funny, I was going to include something about that in my post... There has only been one made-for-TV-movie about Kit Carson (1977) since the TV series ended in 1954. Before that, there were about a half dozen to a dozen movies and shorts. None of them are available on DVD or VHS... I've never seen any of them.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Thanks for your Biblical scholarship. :)

Was Daniel Boone a Congressman? Crockett was.
:o

Boone, Schoone. It was probably Crocket.

Me: I'm sorry.
Brother: Sorry? Hell, boy, you're pathetic.
 
Davy Crockett, I haven't heard that name in a while. He was born in my hometown, I've been to the old cabin. I believe it's been reconstructed. I'll never forget an old man, Mr.Claborn, in my small town. He was a 7th grade history teacher who was recognized as our small town historian. He knew everything about the old place. Even when I was younger and more interested in anything but history, he made it interesting.
 
aproy1101 said:
Can you see Teddy Kennedy behind a berm of earth waiting to be overrun. Just to be evenly speaking here Delay wouldn't do it either.

how about Harry Reid and Bill Frist in a Khuk fight on the Senate floor? :rolleyes:
 
Back in the "good old days" there WERE fights on the Senate floor (and probably the House, too). No Khuks. Sticks. Like, shillelaghs.
 
fredricktoo said:
how about Harry Reid and Bill Frist in a Khuk fight on the Senate floor? :rolleyes:

Reid takes him easy... He just uses tax money to bribe Frist to take a dive. :)
 
I dunno who'd win, don't much care either, but I'd spend my money for a ticket to that bout.
 
Didn't Davy have an ndn wife much of the time he was in the Shining? If'en he did then he ate better than he let on.;)
 
Kit had a couple NDN wives... There's a quote about it in an appendix of quotes about him...

"...He had been afraid the ladies might not care to have him there if they knew he had married a Sioux wife. 'But she was a good woman.' he declared. 'I never came in from hunting but she had warm water for my feet.' I have always remembered that - it was so like the simplicity of the bible."
-Mrs. Jesse Benton Fremont

Other places list his wives as Arapaho and Cheyenne. They don't come up in his autobiography.
 
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