have just recently gotten into 'collecting knives' and have bought a few and its addicting as i guess ya all know - have been thinking about ordering a kershaw torsion assisted ken onion knife - almost ordered 1 fri night - well was gassing up my vette today and a guy walked up and said he noticed the folder i had clipped to my pocket and asked me if maybe i wanted to buy a knife? well maybe i said and he pulled a kershaw onion blackout out of his pocket, said he was out of gas, broke,from out of town, and would take $20 for the knife - checked it out, some honest wear but prob 90%, and no blood, etc on the blade lol - anyway i bought it, and took it home to show my wife, and she said "ya shoulda offered $15" - oh well - am very happy w/my new purchase though .......it cleaned up great- what a deal - hey and the guy was happy too