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I have a 3 yr old JRT. Her name is Bella. As of late she has been whining. Not in pain, but just whining. Like last night. My wife bent down to kiss her and Bella went into the submissive dog stance and started whining. Wife didnt even touch her. Also, last night my wife was scratching her chest, as she likes (Very softly might I add) and Bella growled at her. I made her come to me and repeated both processes and she didnt even so much as make a sound. It is very odd to me. I play w/ Bella more aggressively than my wife and my wife just plays Mommie. What is up do you think? Do you think Bella is whining as a means of attention?

I found this article http://www.petplace.com/dogs/dealing-with-whining-dogs/page1.aspx and read it but would like some input from you all.

Thanks.
 
I don't want to put off the idea that it may be some kind of problem or illness, it may, but I have four dogs at present, 3 never whine one does regularly. I have exhausted myself looking her over for ticks, sores, wounds etc., I have poked and prodded repeatedly trying to produce a pain response whine with no results. Thus I have concluded some dogs are just whiners but I will be watching this thread with interest to see if I have missed something as it is disconcerting to hear.
 
Ya see ive done the same thing w/ bella..poked prodded, searched etc. Her check up is next month so ill see what the vet says.
 
I would think a thorn, tic, cut, etc. If she had been bitten by something and caught something she'd probably be exibiting more physical than emotional signs.
 
I know in one dog I had that she was trying to assert her spot in the pecking order.. Make sure your pup knows she's third or whatever in the pack and not second... I'm mainly geting that from the growl at your wife...

My last pup was a whiner when she wanted something usually a tummy scratch or to go "out"..
 
the dominance thing is what is concerning to me. cuz i had that thought as well...even said that to my wife. i love my pup..but i cant have her trying to establish dominance over my wife...what is odd is she just recently started doing all this jazz.. Do you think it could be a new house causing this? We bought a new house in April and these things started coming up just since we have moved
 
Oh for sure it is the new house, with new surroundings and the stress you inevitably exude before during and after a move.
Was your wife their when Bela was a pup?
Start resolving it, go for walks together with the dog and have her both play and give discipline with you present BE FIRM be fair, she can handle it and . Jacks are evil smart and will try to play games with you when they see an opening, she is going with divide and conquer.
I am on my 3rd dog and Gramps had lots on the farm.
Young dogs will test you now and then, Jacks are like minipitbulls, either you are the alpha or you are not.
Once you establish some positive routines it will change and all will benefit.
 
I was thinking it could be the move too..but then again it's been 10 months. I'll have my wife start doing some dominance training exercises. We've had bella since she was a little bitty puppy..she is our second JRT...our first one, Sid, died from a hook worm infestation that wasn't handled by a different vet, properly. RIP Sid. and ya..that girl is crazy smart...but i have a mini pin too and the mini pin is def the alpha there..but maybe bella is trying to establish dominance over my wife to make up for her not be the alpha w/ Sophie
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How does the dog act when you and your wife are hugging or sitting beside each other? How does the dog act towards your wife if you are gone? We went thru a similar situation with a Border Collie. The dog was relentless in trying to establish his place above my wife. He was worse as soon as I left the yard. He was a sneaky bastard.
 
jw2n said:
How does the dog act when you and your wife are hugging or sitting beside each other? How does the dog act towards your wife if you are gone? We went thru a similar situation with a Border Collie. The dog was relentless in trying to establish his place above my wife. He was worse as soon as I left the yard. He was a sneaky bastard.
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If my wife and i try to get close or otherwise ( :D ) bella tries to get in between... thinking she is jealous of wifey? cuz honestly Sophie (black mini pin) is "my" dog and bella is "wifey's". That is the was it is generally observed.
 
For sure this is pecking order games if she is doing that.

For now the easiest would be to stop both dogs from being on the couch, as well as the bedroom. At your feet is ok and be absolute, no" just this one time"! Plus it will probably help your sex life to have the bedroom as a no pet zone, sure helped us with a lab and 3 cats vying for top rung when we moved 2 years ago.

Waffle and they will remember and challenge you on commands etc, just their nature it is not personal. Look what happens to kids with very caring but wishywashy let them find themselves type of parents.

With the walking/training this step should help, by controlling the circumstance's that cause the behavior it makes it more impartial than discipline after the fact and is more effective.

You sure like to pick the fireball breed's don't ya! Both those breeds think they are 2 feet tall, I can hear the yapping now when the doorbell rings.

keep us posted and good luck man
 
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Brad "the butcher";7757352 said:
For sure this is pecking order games if she is doing that.

For now the easiest would be to stop both dogs from being on the couch, as well as the bedroom. At your feet is ok and be absolute, no" just this one time"! Plus it will probably help your sex life to have the bedroom as a no pet zone, sure helped us with a lab and 3 cats vying for top rung when we moved 2 years ago.

Waffle and they will remember and challenge you on commands etc, just their nature it is not personal. Look what happens to kids with very caring but wishywashy let them find themselves type of parents.

With the walking/training this step should help, by controlling the circumstance's that cause the behavior it makes it more impartial than discipline after the fact and is more effective.

You sure like to pick the fireball breed's don't ya! Both those breeds think they are 2 feet tall, I can hear the yapping now when the doorbell rings.

keep us posted and good luck man
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Thanks man! Ill give it a shot! i gotta work on my wife too as she likes the dogs in our room....gotten to the point where id rather them stay in their crates, but she is a no go on that. GRRR.... Sounds like you know what happens at my house...doorbell or odd shadow and i have much volume...love my girls tho..even tho most guests dont

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Rank Problems in the Pack Structure

Rank within a family pack is a huge, huge thing to a pack animal. A lower ranking pack member would not challenge the pack leader for food, or act aggressively towards a higher pack member when they tried to get into the bed that the lower pack member was sleeping on. Pack leaders eat first and they get the better sleeping quarters.

What this translates down to is this "if your dog growls at you when you go near his food bowl or if it growls at you when you go to bed and it's laying on the bed - or if it growls at you when you try and take its toy away from it - the dog does not feel that you are a higher rank in the pack than it is." When a dog growls at the wife or kids in the family, it sees itself as a higher rank than family members. When that happens there is a problem brewing.

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