spacer material?

Plumberdv

Plumberdv

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Do these spacers appear to be of the "bone hard fiber"?

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Bone hard fiber has that sand stone appearance where there are layers, shown in picture 1. It also has a resemblance to bone, thats probably why it is called Bone hard fiber. The color of bone hard fiber is a bit reddish orange, and doesn't fluctuate much.

Micarta has a carbon fiber resemblance in the texture, it looks fibrous. The color varies from red to almost black, and in my opinion is way different looking than bone hard fiber. It is difficult to determine which is which when the photographs don't get close enough to the spacers.
 
Dave, Photos can be decieving. The spacers at the pommel of your knife look to me to be bone hard. Yet, the spacers at the finger guard are certainly micarta. DM
 
Couple more pictures.

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The material at the guard sure looks different than this micarta.

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To me both the pommel and guard are bone hard fiber. I agree with Matt about the layered appearance of the bone hard fiber vs the waffled grid appearance of the micarta. The difference becomes even more striking if you look at the edges of both materials with good magnification. Although most bone hard fiber has the familiar reddish orange appearance, I have seen some that is pretty dark. This knife appears to have the darker fiber at the guard and the more common reddish at the pommel. JMO.
 
I agree with Roger (DesotoSky)

I don't have any doubt that the spacers in question are hard fiber. The comparison picture shows the glaring differences. IMO, I don't think they look similar at all.
 
All fiber on the knife in question, just a very different shade of color on the guard.

Lines are straight versus the grainy and textured lines of Micarta.

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I am not the expert that you old Buck knife collectors are on the materials used to make them. I only have a few old 124's that are the hard bone fiber version. They don't have any layering at all, just the solid light red color period. So folks.....if you have any of the layered hard bone knives I'd like to see the photo's of them. If we can show a few more knives that match Dave's layered version then I can say I have learned something new here again:thumbup:! How cool is that, and they say "You can't teach an old dog new tricks";).
jb4570
 
I just dug out my old Buck* 102 one liner. I took it outside in the sun and looked at the spacers with a magnifying glass and they look identical to the two liner in my pictures. They have layering, but the layers are straight, not zig zagged like the layers in the micarta.

I don't know if I can get pictures of the layers that will show up.
 
Plumberdv said:
I just dug out my old Buck* 102 one liner. I took it outside in the sun and looked at the spacers with a magnifying glass and they look identical to the two liner in my pictures. They have layering, but the layers are straight, not zig zagged like the layers in the micarta.

I don't know if I can get pictures of the layers that will show up.
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I just did the same with my Hard Bone Fiber 124's and there is no layer or lines at all. I did your magnifying glass approach & a Loop

jb4570
 
I'll have to apologize for the pictures, but so far they're the best I could get. The old Buck is in sad shape, but you can see the spacers fairly well. It's an old one line (Buck*) that if all the info is correct should have the hard fiber spacers. The lines (layers) in the spacers are visible in the first picture and are really obvious in the one showing where they're exposed by the taper put on the top one closest to the handle (as they are in the picture of the first knife I posted).

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Some of mine are like this one above, my others are more light red and solid looking. Thanks for this discussion. DM
 
Plumberdv said:
I'll have to apologize for the pictures, but so far they're the best I could get. The old Buck is in sad shape, but you can see the spacers fairly well. It's an old one line (Buck*) that if all the info is correct should have the hard fiber spacers. The lines (layers) in the spacers are visible in the first picture and are really obvious in the one showing where they're exposed by the taper put on the top one closest to the handle (as they are in the picture of the first knife I posted).

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Although the spacers are a bit darker red, the layering is still abundantly clear. Thanks mbj
 
Interesting thread Dave. It prompted me to examine a couple of 2-liners which I have. On the 102, the spacer revealing the most surface area, like the last picture in Post #6, it looks very similar to the micarta shown, and is MUCH darker than on a 121.

On the surface of the spacer on the 121, there are no visible fibers, but there are a pattern of sort of diamond shaped depressions on the otherwise smooth surface. It is a sort of clay color reddish, much lighter than the maroon colored spacers on the 102.

Unfortunately, I don't have an appropriate camera to take a picture through my microscope lens, but at about 20X the difference is unmistakable.

Peter
 
I got the knife today and with a magnifying glass, I "think" I can see layers in the pommel spacers. While the layers are obvious at the guard, the other spacers could be mistaken for molded plastic. The sheath that came with it is an Atchison, my first.
 
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I wasn't able to improve on the original picture of the pommel spacers, in fact it's not as good. I have another older one on the way and when it gets here, I'll send it, this one and a couple of other into Buck for a spa.

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Nice sheath, I love the sheaths that aren't marked on the snap. The spacers are classic BHF. Very nice. That pommel needs some work but with a spa job it will look good as new and will shine like a new penny...

I haven't sent but a few things into Buck for a spa job so I'm not sure how far they will go. The pommel appears to be pitted. It it doesn't come back as smooth and shiny as you would like, you can sand it down with progressive grits of sand paper and it will look great again.
 
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