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Spyderco black coating
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I don't know about your personal preference, but all blade coatings will come off. I think you'll find that most people will suggest non coated.
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Unless you're working around salt water or other such harsh environments all the time, there's not really much reason to go with a coated blade.
It will rub off over time, no matter what.
After talking with the boys in my local shop, I've learned that they sell mostly coated blades, and mostly part-serrated. I don't have much interest in either, but that's because I'm not a mall ninja.
I'd say uncoated. No real use for it, and that way your blade won't look so beat-up after you've been using it for a while.
Peace.
It will rub off over time, no matter what.
After talking with the boys in my local shop, I've learned that they sell mostly coated blades, and mostly part-serrated. I don't have much interest in either, but that's because I'm not a mall ninja.
I'd say uncoated. No real use for it, and that way your blade won't look so beat-up after you've been using it for a while.
Peace.
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Since the BM 710 HS only comes coated means that it is made specifically for mall ninjas.
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How does the DLC coating actually start coming off? It can't be through abrasion, the coating is extremely hard. Chipping, maybe? I don't think that'd be too much of an issue with a small pocketknife.
puukkoman said:Unless you're working around salt water or other such harsh environments all the time, there's not really much reason to go with a coated blade.
It will rub off over time, no matter what.
After talking with the boys in my local shop, I've learned that they sell mostly coated blades, and mostly part-serrated. I don't have much interest in either, but that's because I'm not a mall ninja.
I'd say uncoated. No real use for it, and that way your blade won't look so beat-up after you've been using it for a while.
Peace.
Yeah, it does appear that there is some marketing of wacky blade profiles, serrations and stealth looks to appeal to the Klingon or Spec Ops wannabees amongst us. I had come to the realisation that a plain blade is most practical for usual applications but was reserving judgement on coatings. However alot of you have echoed my thoughts so uncoated it is I feel.
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I normally don't like matte black coatings on knives (despite the fact that most of my knives have them by coincidence) for looks or any other reason. Weirdly, Spyderco knives seem to look fantastic with the black...the para and native most notably.
The black coating does come off, from heavy cardboard use my Cabela's minigrip has very slight streaking in the finish. Not a big deal, it's not even clearly visible, but if I used it like that every day, I'd give it a month before it looked bad. Of course, that's in D2, so you have a little more motivation to rust proof a blade.
I wish more people would use the titanium nitride coating that CRKT does. I have it on my M16 and it is absolutely gorgeous, and thus far 100% impervious to scratching etc. It's as if the metal itself were simply that color. It's a very dark shiny, totally unlike the matte black. I would get more knives like this were they offered.
The black coating does come off, from heavy cardboard use my Cabela's minigrip has very slight streaking in the finish. Not a big deal, it's not even clearly visible, but if I used it like that every day, I'd give it a month before it looked bad. Of course, that's in D2, so you have a little more motivation to rust proof a blade.
I wish more people would use the titanium nitride coating that CRKT does. I have it on my M16 and it is absolutely gorgeous, and thus far 100% impervious to scratching etc. It's as if the metal itself were simply that color. It's a very dark shiny, totally unlike the matte black. I would get more knives like this were they offered.
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Benchmade's BT2 coating isn't particularly durable, and it's nowhere near as scuff/scratch resistant as Bodycote's tungsten DLC coating.
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Coated or uncoated has been a discussion for a long time here on the BFC. Here is my opinion. You should get what makes you happy. The only ones who are accused of being mall ninjas, or food court commandos are the ones who buy and use a black blade, and then complain that they show wear. DUUUUUHHHH! What did you think would happen? BM's M-2 steel is coated for corrosion resistance, and protects it even when it is worn off. I love the coated Spyderco's. They will get ugly and scratched though. Who cares?
For a SD purpose knife, I do prefer an all black blade, simply because it is non-reflective, and I believe in the notion that; "A blade should be felt, before it is seen".
Other than that, stick with uncoated, due to reasons previously mentioned.
At the end of the day though, it comes down to what your preference is,
and what you plan on using your knife for. Your the one who's paying money for it, and your the one who has to live with it.
Sometimes, black handles and a black blade looks great! As mentioned by Artfully Martial, the black M-16's with ti nitrade coating looks awesome,
in my opinion.
Edit; Oh, and I actually prefer the black para-military over the plain, as I stated, some knives just look good all black, and Spyderco's are no exception. If you do plan on using your knife, what does it matter if the black coating gets scuffed ? it's a user!!!!! Those scratches and scuffs are war wounds, and that's what distinguishes the knife as a strong, efficient workhorse, rather than a safequeen.
Other than that, stick with uncoated, due to reasons previously mentioned.
At the end of the day though, it comes down to what your preference is,
and what you plan on using your knife for. Your the one who's paying money for it, and your the one who has to live with it.
Sometimes, black handles and a black blade looks great! As mentioned by Artfully Martial, the black M-16's with ti nitrade coating looks awesome,
in my opinion.
Edit; Oh, and I actually prefer the black para-military over the plain, as I stated, some knives just look good all black, and Spyderco's are no exception. If you do plan on using your knife, what does it matter if the black coating gets scuffed ? it's a user!!!!! Those scratches and scuffs are war wounds, and that's what distinguishes the knife as a strong, efficient workhorse, rather than a safequeen.
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Spyderco's USA made product is coated with Ion-Bond's DLC coating. It is the toughest we've tested.
The black Seki made pieces like the ATR use Titanium carbo-nitride.
We use black coatings on some models as the result of customer requests, especially the Military.
It's kinda funny 'cuz the 82nd Airborne design (designed by the 82nd Jumpmasters) isn't black. They said that they didn't want coated blades or cammo on the handle because if they dropped it, they wanted to be able to easily find it.
After handling some of their equipment, I can see they can shoot the eye out of a mosquito in the dark at 200 yards. I don't think a bare blade would make much difference.
sal
The black Seki made pieces like the ATR use Titanium carbo-nitride.
We use black coatings on some models as the result of customer requests, especially the Military.
It's kinda funny 'cuz the 82nd Airborne design (designed by the 82nd Jumpmasters) isn't black. They said that they didn't want coated blades or cammo on the handle because if they dropped it, they wanted to be able to easily find it.
After handling some of their equipment, I can see they can shoot the eye out of a mosquito in the dark at 200 yards. I don't think a bare blade would make much difference.
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The kershaw leek looks great in titanium nitride. It's a very subtle black (almost a dark satin-matte), & I'm glad to hear that TiNi is tough as nails.