I've seen posts trying to determan what the finish of the Spyderco ceramics compare to in grit size. The best way is in judgeing the finish they leave. Is there a difference in finishes if it's a benchstone vs the triangle rods? Do the medium brown bench hones produce a finer edge than the same triangle rods? I have a Double stuff and a newer medium bench hone and they both give a very simular edge finish, finer than my Shapton 1000 grit hone.