Spyderco Endura lockback failure

B

baliflipper02

Joined
Aug 27, 2014
Messages
338
So Im thinking my next blade will be a Spyderco Endura, I love my Delica but I want something a little bigger. But im not so sure about the integrity of the Delica and Endura back lock because of a video posted by 555 Gear on youtube. I know that he was abusing the knife but it makes me wonder...


Watch to the end...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_593Qb2kI
 
That video just proves that if you abuse a knife it will break. Use the right tool for the job. What do you need your knife to do? If you need to baton then don't get an Endura. If not then it should be plenty strong for just about everything else.
 
Last edited:
Any (read: 99.999%) lockback would fail in that situation, and any frame/liner lock would fail or have major damage earlier. It's just not a job for a folder.

The updated midlock, as on the Native 5, or a Triad would do better but still not be fail proof.

I've batoned with the liner less older Native with no damage or failure, but not as long or aggressively as in that video.

If you want an Endura get it and use it for what you use a knife for and don't worry.
 
That is not hard use, that is abuse. The Endura was purposely abused to failure in that video and that was his intent. The Endura will hold up to hard use, but no folder will hold up indefinitely to abuse. Triad lock will take more abuse, sure, but the knives are not as light and slim as the Endura. Buy the Endura and love it.
 
There seems to be an epidemic of people having unrealistic expectations out of folding knives, only to have an A-HA moment, then a smirk and a shoulder shrug when the knife expectedly fails like we've all been had or something. The Endura is a fine knife.
 
baliflipper02 said:
So Im thinking my next blade will be a Spyderco Endura, I love my Delica but I want something a little bigger. But im not so sure about the integrity of the Delica and Endura back lock because of a video posted by 555 Gear on youtube. I know that he was abusing the knife but it makes me wonder...


Watch to the end...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_593Qb2kI
Click to expand...

Ya could always disengage the lock to avoid unnecessary wear or failure to any folder.



Folding knives are not designed for that work.

Even a triad lock would become loose over time.

There is a fascination about having a folder that turns into a fixed blade.

Yet even fixed blades break doing what was done in the video.

If this video makes someone worry about buying an Endura or Delica then there looking at the wrong knife/tool for their intended purpose.

Get something else my man.

The Endura has other strengths.

Not this.

Btw, Enduras make horrible screwdrivers and prypars too.
How lame hahahaha

Peace
 
ALLHSS said:
That's not very constructive. Pretty new user, he's getting the right answer. Hopefully he listens, if not then oh well.
Click to expand...


I apologize if that came of as being brash.
But it is indeed my opinion.
The Endura will fail if used incorrectly. Just like your car will crash and suffer damage if you operate it incorrectly.
Just like we will all drop jaws and open our eyes wide when we read this thread title, then proceed to come in and read thread and realize it isn't that way at all... :)
 
What pants-on-head dense abuse.

The Endura and its lock are just fine for anything you should be using a folding knife for. If you absolutely feel the need to beat a thin cutting tool into some wood with another piece of wood, you should maybe think about choosing a stout fixed blade (or better yet, a tool actually designed for that purpose). You could even use the knife to carve a wedge for that instead.

Spyderco said:
Spyderco knives are designed and built for use as cutting tools. Use of our knives for any purpose other than cutting is considered abuse. As with any tool Spyderco knives can wear out. They may also fail to perform if not used or cared for properly.
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
I am curious. The lock didn't actually break. It seems to be slipping under impact.
I'm not saying it's not abusive, but considering Endura is endorsed for MBC (there's a trainer model), imagine it got unlocked during a tussle.

I hope the reviewer sent it in for Sal to inspect, so it can be improved.

Someone mentioned that even Triad Lock will losen up if abused. I don't think so as by design, it will wear and engaged deeper.

One of my Endura has less engagement than the rest, similar to what was shown, so I'm curious if the shallower than normal engagement will have more risk against impact. In the last part if the video it showed that static loading won't cause it disengaged.

Our moderator STR talked at length about lock test both static and dynamic (impact/jarring shock).
 
Judging a knife by beating with a stick is dumb. If you need to chop wood get a hatchet. When I break a ratchet because I put a piece of pipe on it to gain leverage and it breaks I don't say it "failed". I say it broke because I was not using the correct tool for the job.

Videos like this are stupid and serve no purpose.
 
If you HAVE to do stuff like that with a folder, get a Cold Steel Recon 1 or any other oversized Cold Steel. I own a few Spyderco lockbacks and I feel perfectly safe using them for whatever happens to come my way. I particularly carry the Pacific Salt a lot, which is basically the same knife as the Endura but with H1 steel. Yes, the lock-up is light, but it's more than sufficient for use AS A FOLDING KNIFE.
I'm a big fan of the Tri-Ad lock, but it's not exactly as if it makes all other locks obsolete or even dangerous... :rolleyes:
 
Im still going to purchase the Endura because I don't use my folding knifes to baton and chop through wood. Another reason why I EDC a fixed blade. :cool:
 
Chris "Anagarika";15510514 said:
I am curious. The lock didn't actually break. It seems to be slipping under impact.
I'm not saying it's not abusive, but considering Endura is endorsed for MBC (there's a trainer model), imagine it got unlocked during a tussle.

I hope the reviewer sent it in for Sal to inspect, so it can be improved.

Someone mentioned that even Triad Lock will losen up if abused. I don't think so as by design, it will wear and engaged deeper.

One of my Endura has less engagement than the rest, similar to what was shown, so I'm curious if the shallower than normal engagement will have more risk against impact. In the last part if the video it showed that static loading won't cause it disengaged.

Our moderator STR talked at length about lock test both static and dynamic (impact/jarring shock).
Click to expand...

I hope you aren't serious about sending that knife in to Sal. They do testing on locks and strength and failures. They don't need some idiot batonning a folder (locked mind you, if you needed to do that, unlock it for crying out loud) and then sending it in to be "improved"
 
That did not look like lock failure.

But more like he released it.
5:58 his thumb is on the cut out
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top