spyderco farid K-2 super sticky lock bar??

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i collect spydercos and a few buck, boker and chris reeves, but mostly spyderco....gave in and ordered the 'big one'...the farid K-2....the lock up is pretty much impossible to open with one hand, it take both of my hands....have seen the you tube vids and read a lot of how the K-2 is purposely made this way and can be quite sticky, but mine is 'super sticky'...it flicks open like butter but when the lock is fully engaged (about 90%) it needs me to use both hands to unlock it...now when i open it gently it locks up to about 30% and is perfect to close with my thumb...i am really wondering now if it will truly break in to at least be able to be unlocked with one hand, even though a little tough or if it is a 'warranty issue' and i should send it back (which i hate to do because of past postal problems here in canada etc. really wondering if anyone else has had a truly 'impossible' lock bar problem with the K-2 and if it did break in with some time...i'm perplexed....should i give it time or send it back??
 
I've had a couple of "impossible" ones from another maker.

1) the lock bar/blade tang interface needs to be clean, cleaner and degreased with alcohol....
2) play with it, a lot, it WILL break in.
3) if necessary "paint" the offending surfaces with Sharpie marker or pencil graphite (this will provide just enough "lubrication").
4) send it to Golden.

The $600. knife got all this treatment, minus sending it back, and now locks and unlocks smoothly.....took about two weeks to break in, tho.
 
yep. Clean the lock bar face, graphite it then just allow it to work itself in. It's not as bad as it seems. It is supposed to come tight and work/wear in. Yes, more so than most other frame lock designs.

Joe
 
garymalette,

My K2 was pretty much as you described (30% on light opening no stick, 80%+ of hard opening with stick). Stick got worse initially. I did as I typically do (when I do not suspect that there are problems like a bur developing on the trailing edge of the lock, and that the knife just needs proper break-in), using wood-cased pencil lead.

In this link I attempted to help another to understand some of the reasons why this works for some folks, but not for others (unfortunately this person was more about being closed minded to learning anything that they already "knew" - kinda ignorant is how I might describe it).

Here's link for anyone to read (I think it was post #20 on page#2 of the thread). I have attempted to explain how i use this as a breakin option / long-term solution for some of my knives, along with problems and lesson I have learned. Understanding how the wood-cased pencil lead affects things, I believe, requires understanding the phyical composition (graphite, clay/ceramic, wax/grease) and how these compounds affect the lock short-term and long-term.
https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=70998&start=20#p1092664

My daily carry K2 opens like butter, and closes easily one-handed (right-hand or left-hand, but one-handed either way). Smooth disengagement with either hand at about 80-85% engagement on soft or hard opening :-)

I personally would NOT suggest a carbidize option on this model. I believe Spyderco heat treats the face of the lock-bar similar to a Sebbie. In my mind the knife just needs a breakin where the lock-bar & the lock-tange effectively marry to each other (kinda like blue-printing parts on an engine, etc.).
 
I have one, but don't carry it much. It has lockstick. I guess I just stopped caring about it as a flaw in any knives I have. Sometimes I have to use two hands, but it is a huge knife so I don't expect it to have excellent one-handed operation of every feature. I scrape some pencil graphite it there occasionally. I think it will break-in eventually and I'm not in any rush.
 
Spey said:
garymalette,

My K2 was pretty much as you described (30% on light opening no stick, 80%+ of hard opening with stick). Stick got worse initially. I did as I typically do (when I do not suspect that there are problems like a bur developing on the trailing edge of the lock, and that the knife just needs proper break-in), using wood-cased pencil lead.

In this link I attempted to help another to understand some of the reasons why this works for some folks, but not for others (unfortunately this person was more about being closed minded to learning anything that they already "knew" - kinda ignorant is how I might describe it).

Here's link for anyone to read (I think it was post #20 on page#2 of the thread). I have attempted to explain how i use this as a breakin option / long-term solution for some of my knives, along with problems and lesson I have learned. Understanding how the wood-cased pencil lead affects things, I believe, requires understanding the phyical composition (graphite, clay/ceramic, wax/grease) and how these compounds affect the lock short-term and long-term.
https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=70998&start=20#p1092664

My daily carry K2 opens like butter, and closes easily one-handed (right-hand or left-hand, but one-handed either way). Smooth disengagement with either hand at about 80-85% engagement on soft or hard opening :-)

I personally would NOT suggest a carbidize option on this model. I believe Spyderco heat treats the face of the lock-bar similar to a Sebbie. In my mind the knife just needs a breakin where the lock-bar & the lock-tange effectively marry to each other (kinda like blue-printing parts on an engine, etc.).
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No Spey, I said I didn't want that solution. I'm really wondering why you're so upset that I don't want to do that for the reasons I have. I guess you can figure out who I am. I'm really wondering why it is so hard for you to wrap your head around my initial statement saying that I did not prefer that solution.

You prefer to insult my intelligence rather than accept that I prefer something else to deal with my sticky lock. My opinion was that it was a temporary solution compared to rotating the stop pin which I consider a more permanent one from my previous experiences.

Do you have a problem when people don't accept your suggestions?
 
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