Spyderco. Lionsteel. Maniago Quality Control.

zabernas

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Greetings BF,

I’m a Spyderco fan. I’ve owned 50. Bought and sold. Made some money. Lost some. Learned much about the intricacies of folders from my first Para 3 LW in Spy27. Lost my mind trying to center the blade—never did. I was hooked from there.

I am neurotic at heart which is why knives speak to me. There’s infinite room to study the nuances of knife makers’ logic and execution. It’s one of life’s great joys—especially when I find one that speaks to my soul. Or one that gives me consternation.

I compare quality control of USA vs Taichung vs Seki. I think Taichung is the Gold standard. The Spynano is the first Maniago model I’ve had. It deviated from the normal formula. Had to get my hands on it.

Out of the box it was fine. Quirky. Not the most functional of knives, but for the enthusiast it seemed to be a fit. It has this removable flipper which is novel. So I flipped it. As you do. 10 cycles in and it suddenly felt like the bearings were caked with sand. Maybe some dust? 10 more flips and the action all but seized. Time to disassemble.

I’m not the most delicate guy, but I know how to work on knives. I began the normal disassembly process. As I loosened the pivot screw the other side began rotating with it. With a lot of torque required. No loosening occurred. I placed counter tension on the other side with an additional 8 Torx. Cammed the bit and stripped the screw before breaking one side loose. The entire pivot assembly was smattered with thread lock. Not a good look. I’ve never seen this issue across many Spydercos.

Onto the bearings: not caged but set into a composite—thrust washers I believe? Ok I guess that can work. The composite was dry and brittle.

I cleaned the loctite, buffed the metal with a sunshine cloth and hit all components of the pivot assembly with the standard “sparing” amount of silicone lube. Never was able to break loose the show side screw from the pivot.

Reassembled. Centered blade. Just past hand tight torque across the screws. 20 cycles. Same problem. So I drowned the top half of the knife with lube. Have been carrying for 2 days. Normal duty. Cutting pill containers at work, maybe 10 boxes, envelopes. Other things that looked like they needed to be cut with a knife. Some compulsive flipping sessions. Maybe 100 cycles overall.

Now, this evening, the purpose of this write up: more grit in the action! Why? What is happening? This is the lousiest qc, assemblage, parts quality, tolerances?, I’ve seen in a Spyderco. Give me my $30 Keshaws from Walmart any day of the week over this. Maybe I got a dud. Maybe they have to outsource qc for the niche builds like the Spynano.

Tell me I’m wrong. Tell me how to fix it. Tell me I need to see a doctor.

It’s going back under warranty claim. Curious to see what they have to say. If anyone cares I’ll keep the post updated.

Nerd vent complete.

-John

(Photo of action with pivot screw hand tight. On “bearings”)

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I just found this on the Spyderco website:

"Spyderco’s knives are assembled to exacting tolerances by trained technicians, so we discourage end users from disassembling or adjusting our knives. If a knife has been disassembled and reassembled correctly—so as to maintain its proper mechanical function—this warranty remains in full effect. However, if a knife has been disassembled and reassembled in such a way that, in Spyderco’s sole determination, the proper mechanical function of the knife has been compromised, it is no longer covered by warranty."

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out!
 
Right. And I honor their rules. Have had several I wouldn’t dare disassemble because they have perfect function.
 
Could be the balls are getting hung up in the phenolic cage? I’d order a set of Skiffs before sending back (as you’ve already stripped the pivot screw) to try and see if that’s the problem. Can always send it to Spyderco if that’s not the issue. Good luck and Welcome to BF.
 
Skiffs would be an easy fix for sure. What was so odd is that the bearings were not caged at all and were seized or glued into this odd media like fiberglass. I don’t think I want to invest in skiffs as much as I love them for this niche piece. Have a good night!
 
I find Maniago QC to be, generally.. decent. I have the SpyNano's older brother, the SpyMyto Sprint. My example is good, but I do remember hearing of a seemingly high number of QC complaints around the time they were released. I also have a Lil LionSpy and SpyOpera, both Lionsteel collabs.. those were good to go too, imo, in fact the SpyOpera stood out as quite good. One of the worst QC'd Spydercos I think I've ever received was the Maniago-made AEB-L Urban Sprint.. dull by Spyderco standards, lousy grinds, off-center blade, lousy stiff gritty action, unadjustable free-spinning pivot screw.. it really wasn't great compared to the similarly-designed, US-made UKPK. That knife really soured me on Italian Spydercos for a while, which is unfortunate because thinking on it now, it was my only dud from Italy. Maniago is not my favorite Spyderco factory, but overall I think it is ok.. sometimes it's just the luck of the draw.. hope Spyderco makes it right for you, OP..
 
I had a similar issue with the SpyMyto. My theory is that it's the weird material the cage is made from (ultem, is my guess).

I did what I would do if I was lapping washers except not against an abrasive, just to hopefully loosen the balls and smooth anything that may be causing hang-ups. It made it better, but still not great. After regular carry/use for a few weeks it completely went away and it's now perfectly smooth.
 
“…So I flipped it. As you do. 10 cycles in and it suddenly felt like the bearings were caked with sand. Maybe some dust? 10 more flips and the action all but seized. Time to disassemble.…”

NOT time to disassemble but Time to return your new knife to either the dealer or Spyderco. I’ve gotten 2 new Spydercos that quickly developed problems upon light use. Shipped them back for warranty work and Spyderco took care of both.
 
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