Spyderco Military 1997 vs. 2007

brj

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since I've got one of the older Millies in a trade, here is a quick side-by-side comparison with regular production

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Blade
This is my first 'toothed' Spyderco and I'm not thrilled about it, in fact I think I'll stick to plain edges ;). The plan was to test 440V against some of the other different steels the Millie was offered in, but I fear that SE versus PE won't be quite relevant. Anyway, I'll keep you updated.

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The thumb ramp has the old pattern which generally provides superior traction, but seems a bit too aggresive for push-cuts. The smooth choil has no ill effects on the grip.

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Handle
G10 with a single steel liner on the locking side (the support liner on newer models is visible in the pic above)

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The handle on the older model is a bit slick, but usable nonetheless

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I've removed the backspacer on both models, the 1997 model weights now around 107 gr., the 2007 around 118 gr. There is no detectable flex in the handle and maintenance is a lot easier.

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Locking
The liner engages the tang at around 1/2 on the 440V, with neither lateral, nor vertical bladeplay, and a hair short of 1/2 on the 2007 model.

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My only gripe with the 1997 model so far is the poor retention in the closed position, if I push the end of the blade (kinda like a flipper) the tip of the blade sticks out a whole inch or so, making carriage potentially unsafe.

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I have now D2, S90V, BG-42, 440V and a bunch of S30V's, as soon as I hunt an ATS-34 down and get my hands on the Knifeworks M4 version I'll do a little testing. If you guys have any suggestions for testing, let's hear them.

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Nice line-up. I have an older Millie with the chunky jimping and I prefer it to the newer models. The blade seems chunkier to my eyes.
 
I have an old 440V model and a new one I just got last month or so. Two things I like better about the old one is that it's a bit thinner and lighter, and I actually prefer the G-10 handle's smoother texture better. But to me, the newer one feels a bit more solid. Lockup on both are very close, and retention in the closed position also close, with the nod on lockup and retention going to the new model. I prefer the S30V to the 440V steel.
Jim
 
Interesting comment about the backspacers. I took the backspacer out of one of my 710s and found the same - it was just as rigid as with the backspacer. Might follow your lead on that one for the Military. :thumbup:
 
I find the older Military models to have a "flexy flier" lock (a lot of flex when stressed in the closing direction) compared to the newer versions.
 
as stated before, I am preparing to test these pups...

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... but need to gather a little data beforehand in regards to the hardness of each steel. This is what I came up with so far, if something seems inacurate to you and you have a link with the correct Rc please help out a fellow steel-nut ;)

440V: 58-59 HRC (later dropped to 56)
S30V: 58-59 HRC
BG-42: 60-61 HRC
D2: 61-62 HRC
S90V: 59-60 HRC

thanks
 
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AFAIK, besides adding rigidity, it was supposed to house a tritium vial, which would have glowed through holes in the G10 handles
however, Spyderco found out that it was too expensive and it never went into production
 
AFAIK, besides adding rigidity, it was supposed to house a tritium vial, which would have glowed through holes in the G10 handles
however, Spyderco found out that it was too expensive and it never went into production

Maybe I should put a blue tritium vial in my BG42 Millie:D
 
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