Spyderco Mule Team 07 Damascus

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I just ordered one of these puppies. Soooo sexy, cant wait to fondle this thing :jerk it:.
 
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got mine this morning, getting some handles and a sheath made and Im gonna use and abuse that bastard
 
Very cool, I have the M4 MULE. Can someone list the different steels used in the MULE line.
 
I was excited at first but once I found out it had a core and it was VG-10 I lost interest. :(
 
elkins45 said:
:confused: How can you have a damascus blade but a (seemingly) non-damascus tang/handle?
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The handle is damascus but there are no bevels ground to expose the layers so you see only the outside layer. Plus its probably not etched to show any contrast.
 
It is not real Damascus, though.
From the Spyderco site: "... The Damascus Mule’s steel is composed of layers of erosive and non-erosive material over a VG-10 core center. The erosive layers are hard martensite stainless steel and the non-erosive layers are anti-corrosion nonferrous metal. These layers block carbon particles in the core from spreading to the outer layers. After layering the blade is forged to intentionally distort the layer-lines making a complicated, artistically beautiful pattern called Suminagashi. Suminagashi is the traditional Japanese art form of creating ripples of Chinese ink on the surface of water. This steel mimics the art form with interesting results on a knife blade..."

The Damascus serving only a purely decorative purpose, it is not a Mule, either (To me a Mule is a no-nonsense knife meant to test different steels. Maybe the concept has evolved...).
 
Why would the Spyderco site also say it's 15 layers if it isn't damascus steel? Not sure what the issues is with the VG10 core, Fallkniven blades are mostly VG10 and a lot of people love them.
 
Think of it as San Mai but with the outer layer being damascus. The outer layer is damascus and the inter core is VG-10. The cutting edge is going to be VG-10 instead of damascus like in a 'real' damascus blade. When damascus is the cutting edge there is a change in performance since there are different alloys that erode at different rates along the cutting edge. This produces a micro serration effect since different alloys make almost a fine saw tooth effect.

In this sense this is not a true damascus blade as the cutting edge is 'only' VG-10, but there is 'real' damascus in the knife, however, it is just for looks and on the side of the blade where it won't become part of the cutting edge. This knife should perform roughly the same as a solid VG-10 blade. The only difference may be how the damascus cladding moves through the cutting medium. It might be a little more rough when cutting things, or some sticky materials like cheese might not stick quite as much (think micro scallops like on a typical Santoku).
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
Think of it as San Mai but with the outer layer being damascus. The outer layer is damascus and the inter core is VG-10. The cutting edge is going to be VG-10 instead of damascus like in a 'real' damascus blade. When damascus is the cutting edge there is a change in performance since there are different alloys that erode at different rates along the cutting edge. This produces a micro serration effect since different alloys make almost a fine saw tooth effect.

In this sense this is not a true damascus blade as the cutting edge is 'only' VG-10, but there is 'real' damascus in the knife, however, it is just for looks and on the side of the blade where it won't become part of the cutting edge. This knife should perform roughly the same as a solid VG-10 blade. The only difference may be how the damascus cladding moves through the cutting medium. It might be a little more rough when cutting things, or some sticky materials like cheese might not stick quite as much (think micro scallops like on a typical Santoku).
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:thumbup: Thanks, that makes sense.
 
I bought a couple because I really wanted a "normal" high performance steel as a benchmark. With the possible caveat mentioned above, I think of this is just a decorated VG-10 Mule. YMMV! ;)

LorenzoL said:
It is not real Damascus, though.
From the Spyderco site: "... The Damascus Mule’s steel is composed of layers of erosive and non-erosive material over a VG-10 core center. The erosive layers are hard martensite stainless steel and the non-erosive layers are anti-corrosion nonferrous metal. These layers block carbon particles in the core from spreading to the outer layers. After layering the blade is forged to intentionally distort the layer-lines making a complicated, artistically beautiful pattern called Suminagashi. Suminagashi is the traditional Japanese art form of creating ripples of Chinese ink on the surface of water. This steel mimics the art form with interesting results on a knife blade..."

The Damascus serving only a purely decorative purpose, it is not a Mule, either (To me a Mule is a no-nonsense knife meant to test different steels. Maybe the concept has evolved...).
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