Spyderco Navaja: What's clicking?

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Spyderco Navaja. I have never been so excited about any other knives (including my DLC Para2). The reason for my excitement is that the Navaja has carbon fiber scales, stainless steel bolsters, and a thick tip. And when the Navaja arrived today, i wasn't disappointed in it at all. The carbon fiber scales are stunning, and the tip looks strong enough to handle some light prying. In addition, the fit and finish of this knife is amazing!
Before the Navaja arrived, i was quite worried if the carraca mechanism would create significant friction such that the blade cannot be flicked opened. I was wrong. In reality, the smooth opening of the Navaja can be compared with my Para2.
So after playing with my Navaja, i decided to strip it! And for all u curious people (like me) out there, here are some internal pictures of the Spyderco Navaja.



This is where the spring that impacts the gear to create the carraca resides. Only a small part is exposed.
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The gear, right next to the spring.
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The spring. I tried removing the spring and the knife works the same without it (just no sound, Duh).
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The gear is actually fixed in position by 2 small protrusions on the blade. The washer sits inside the gear (Washers on both sides are of same size).
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All the internal parts side by side. The stop pin is actually quite thin.
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The naked Navaja :D
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And finally, all parts put together!
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Ok, the Navaja is sure a beauty; however, there are a few issues that i have with this knife:
1. The liner lock is hard to depress because it's flushed with the handles.
2. The 'head' of the blade is pretty sharp. It is pretty uncomfortable holding the knife in closed position because the 'head' comes into contact with my finger.
3. Sharp edges of the spyder hole. The Navaja has it too.

Besides these issues, the Navaja is a great knife. It has speed, strength, style, and sound! Hahahaha :D I love this knife!
 
It's amazing what less than $200 can get you. There are so many machined parts that I cannot think of any other knife that can rival in terms of build and complicacy
 
Funny you should post this. I just posted on how my navaja stopped clicking just not too long ago. I wonder if I might have worn down the spring. I have only had the knife for less than a week. But it's cool you answered a question with out me asking.
 
The Navaja is a quality knife. But I wonder why aren't the stainless steel liners are polished?
 
1. The liner lock is hard to depress because it's flushed with the handles.
Maybe to clarify a bit, the lock is not excessively stiff, its just hard to get a purchase on.
I found the best way was to just hook the lock with my thumbnail behind the point in the bolster and its quite easy to release.

Besides these issues, the Navaja is a great knife. It has speed, strength, style, and sound! Hahahaha :D I love this knife!
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It appears that spring wear will always be an issue.
I suspect you are correct. I've only seen a couple of folks mention broken springs so its a bit early to tell how much of an issue it will be. Could be something that we may have to deal with, if we care. As has been noted, if it breaks the knife still functions fine. Guess it will depend on how important that sound is to you. :D
 
Great pics/write-up! And yeah, I agree about the liner lock being difficult to access/disengage. That, as well as the fact that the ergos just didn't quite work for me, was a major reason that I ended up selling my Navaja.
 
I've got 42 Spydies, and the Navaja may be my #1 favorite. Easily in the top 3. It's hard to pick a #1... but, the Navaja is a strong candidate.
 
Great pics/write-up! And yeah, I agree about the liner lock being difficult to access/disengage. That, as well as the fact that the ergos just didn't quite work for me, was a major reason that I ended up selling my Navaja.

It's sad to hear that you sold away your Navaja... I think that it would be a better idea to use compression lock on the Navaja.
 
THANKS for the pics! was really curious about how they did it, sweet setup.
 
I was exited about this knife for a while and was waiting for a few years. Great knife, love it, almost perfect for me............

the tip looks strong enough to handle some light prying.

this is the thing, which I do not like the most. I tried to open the package and was disapointed with amount of force I had to apply. Better use Persian or Caly3.5 for such tasks:(

Ok, the Navaja is sure a beauty; however, there are a few issues that i have with this knife:
1. The liner lock is hard to depress because it's flushed with the handles.

that shouldn't be a problem. After few days, you will have no problem to close the knife.
Still love the folder, certainly on the top of my list, but C83 Persian still #1.
 
After few days, you will have no problem to close the knife.
The issue does not appear to be that the lock is excessively stiff, rather that its very flush with the frame. Not something use will change.
As I noted earlier, its not a huge problem (at least for me :D), since you can easily move the liner lock with your thumbnail...behind the point of the bolster seems to work best.

It could be modded to provide more purchase area, but I don't think that would be a great idea.
Plus it would sort of ruin the look.
 
this is the thing, which I do not like the most. I tried to open the package and was disapointed with amount of force I had to apply. Better use Persian or Caly3.5 for such tasks:(
Yes i agree. But i prefer this tradeoff (Stronger tip vs better penetration)



The issue does not appear to be that the lock is excessively stiff, rather that its very flush with the frame. Not something use will change.
As I noted earlier, its not a huge problem (at least for me :D), since you can easily move the liner lock with your thumbnail...behind the point of the bolster seems to work best.

It could be modded to provide more purchase area, but I don't think that would be a great idea.
Plus it would sort of ruin the look.
After playing with my Navaja for a day, a portion of my thumbnail is 'blunt'. Haha. But opening wise, it is smoother than my para2 :O
 
Bump!
Love my Navaja and carry it often. Was searching around for some origin details on the "Carraca", and this thread popped up so I figured I'd give it some love! :)


I have no major issue with closing this knife, but if I were to set out at daily tasks where repeated regular opening and closing was a concern I'd just grab a Millie instead.

Just to keep it going, here's a pic of mine from a week or so ago:
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Bump!
Love my Navaja and carry it often. Was searching around for some origin details on the "Carraca", and this thread popped up so I figured I'd give it some love! :)


I have no major issue with closing this knife, but if I were to set out at daily tasks where repeated regular opening and closing was a concern I'd just grab a Millie instead.

Just to keep it going, here's a pic of mine from a week or so ago:
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How do you make it levitate like that?

Exceedingly cool!
 
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