Spyderco Perrin problems with hammer grip question?

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Hello,

I have a Spyderco Fred Perrin. I like this knife quite a lot, however, I am concerned about using it in forward hammer grip. It has no hilt, and the grip is pretty narrow.

I am getting a better hammer grip on it the more I work with it. Still, I wonder if this knife is just conceptually wrong for forward hammer grip?

Oddly, it seems the Shivworks Disciple has a very similar grip, and I believe it was designed to be used well in forward hammer grip.

I wonder if a larger palm swell in a grippy material, like G10, would make the knife good enough to be used well in hammer grip? Then I wonder if grippy G10 would hitch my clothing and compromise concealability?

I like this knife quite a lot, good sabre grip, good reverse grip, good size, very light and fast. I would like to get it to work for me, if possible.

Thoughts?

Zippy

P.S. I have a Perrin Pique Cul on the way, very similar to the Spyderco, only smaller. I thought I might try to rehandle it in G10, Walnut, or Delerin, once I got the right shape figured out. I wonder if I am just going against the grain with this project? Maybe I should try a Gryphon M10 instead?
 
Saber grip feels best and hammer is entirely secure - I assume your index finder is in the notch / choil!

Hammer grip doesn't feel as good, but I have full confidence in the choil to stop my hand sliding up.
 
Daniel,

Thanks for the reply. I thought this post was slipping away without notice.

Anyway, my index finger is not in the choil in hammer grip. This seems biomechanically impossible. :(

The finger is about a quarter inside the choil, but still, due to the shape of my hand, and the way the fingers work, the fingers are still going to slide straight out on to the blade (if they do slide).

Oddly, the pinky finger fits into the choil very nicely in reverse grip. I was puzzling over this last night. I can't explain it.

I can hit pretty hard in forward hammer grip with the Perrin. I have a dulled trainer that I stab into a 2X4 for practice. If I hit any harder, I fear I would injure my hand, wrist, or elbow. The grip remains amazingly secure, even with mulitple hits, and simulated reduced grip strength (as if I had been conked in the noggin') But conceptually, it still worries me.

I came within a hair of getting a Gryphon M10 today. I couldn't raise Mike at River City Shealths, or I would have gotten one. Too, I have been dying to crack the handle off one of my Perrin's to see what lies underneath, and how this knife is so light at 5".

Best,
Zippy
 
I think if you take the handle off you'll find a stick tang that runs 2/3 the length of the blade, if I recall correctly. It would be hard to securely replace the handle without a lot of effort and/or expense.
 
You are probably right Fish.

Do you think if I took it into a Hospital Emergency Room, and asked them very nicely, that they would X-Ray it for me? :)
 
The shape of the choil forms an integral guard that is more than adequate to protect the hand in a forward or reverse grip.

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