Spyderco Ronin vs. Spyderco Perrin vs. Shivworks Disciple

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Which of these do you prefer for EDC and why?

I have settled on one of these three and was wondering what the group had to say from firsthand experience or from having been through the decision process for yourselves already.

In terms of size, I believe it goes Disciple, Ronin, Perrin (shortest to longest).

The Perrin is about 9-1/3" long, but seems to be a pretty sweet SD blade. For those of you that carry the Perrin, how do you keep it concealed?

Thanks in advance!

Vanguard.45
 
Hi Vanguard,

The 3 models mentioned are really quite different in design philosophies and would be difficult to compare.

Michael Janich's "Ronin" was specifically designed for his own very efficient style and has had quite a bit of thought as to how the model would perform usning his techniques.

Fred Perrin, also an experienced teacher and designer, designed the Perrin Bowie for more general function while still retaining MBC fnction. The French Military was the target.

Southnarc's Desciple is patterned for Pakal style of MBC which is reverse grip edge in.

hard to compare.

They're all nicely made. They all use very good materials. They all come from top drawer instructrors that know their stuff".

sal
 
Sal Glesser said:
Southnarc's Desciple is patterned for Pakal style of MBC which is reverse grip edge in.
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Which leads us to the first easy decision: if you use pakal or want to learn pakal, choose the Disciple, since none of the other knives work well in pakal. If you don't use pakal, don't choose the Disciple.

The next decision I'd make is based on size. For me, Perrin is a bit large to EDC. Side note is I hate the handle ergonomics on the Perrin, but I appear to be in the minority on that.

They all come from top drawer instructrors that know their stuff
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I've definitely found that there's a big difference between being a great martial arts instructor, and understanding how to design a knife for that martial art. That said, this is definitely a case where all three instructors did a great job on designing their knives, and the makers did a great job of execution.

Joe
 
Of those 3 knives, I have experience only with the Ronin, and I consider it an outstanding design as a concealed-carry 'neck knife' - not as an everyday EDC.

My only criticism (for neck-carry concealment) is that the standard sheath is about an inch too long for true concealment, which is easily cured by shortening the standard Ronin sheath.

The knife itself is an outstanding combination of ergonomic design and excellent materials. I'm amazed that this knife isn't considered a 'classic' as a concealed-carry knife.

Hope this helps!
 
Messers Glesser and Talmadge beat me to it; each of those blades have their own approach and application. Your training background, mode of carry, lifestyle also plays a role in your blade selection.
 
If I were going to choose a small concealable blade for mbc the Ronin would be it. Small, fast, sharp as all get out, and an excellent design for penetration. It does well in either foward or reverse grip(sharp side out). It however wouldnt last long doing daily tasks as the first 1/2" of blade is so thin. I have often wondered if the BG would even know he had been stuck with it (at least for a few moments). Some of the people on here do EDC a Yojimbo and they seem quite pleased. It has a little stronger tip and the box cutter shape seems to work well for many everyday cutting tasks. Either knife would do very well in MBC. Of course there is no substitute for good intstruction.
 
As others have said the Disciple is more specialized in its design and its use so that limits its EDC-ability. That said, it would be a great choice if you wanted to go ahead and learn the pakal techniques. The Shivworks hardware is really solid with the collaboration between Southnarc and Trace Rinaldi.

Between the Perrin and the Ronin I'd choose the Ronin based almost entirely on size. Again, it has specialized design compared an EDC like the Endura or Delica but I think it would be the most practical choice of the 3 knives you listed.
 
Okay, I'll bite. I've come across "MBC" a number of times but it is one acronym that I never figured out. Can someone enlighten me as to what the initials stand for? Thanks.
 
I really like Perrin's work, but I would get a real Perrin since you can get one for not much more than the discontinued spyderco. Perrin's blades are very affordable compared to other customs.
 
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