Spyderco ss Police tip survival

Anders Holm

Anders Holm

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Hello!

I finally got the knife I've wanted for a very long time, Spyderco Police stainless steel. And I love it!

The grind of the tip seems ideal for penetration, but as with my Delica in the same ats-55 steel, I'm worried about breaking the tip when hitting something hard. Have you managed to break the tip of your Police? If so, what was the material you were cutting / stabbing? Some Spyderco models have been smeared in the local yellow press, labeled as cop killers, designed to pierce kevlar, etc. But what CAN the blade pierce, and what's too much? Please enlighten me, for I have destroyed many a good knife doing testing of my own out of sheer curiosity... :(

The Police feels like it can take a lot of punishment, and I love the weight and overall large size of this knife. Workmanship is, naturally, superb. However, I'm not really a big fan of serrated blades, and would like to have a plain edge companion for the Spyderco. Something in the same size, quality and price bracket. Could you please recommend something? (Yes, I do know that Police comes with plain edge as well - I just got a really good deal on the serrated one.)

BTW, there's no way I'll ever be able to hold and feel any of the high end folders discussed in these forums; they're simply not imported into my country. So it's going to be a mail order. Your opinion counts!!!
 
Hello Anders,

If you don't have any benchmades buy one of axis lock models. I personally don't like so much of 710 - I prefer 940 over it but you seem to like big blades. Finn Enterprise in Helsinki might sell those. They will cost more than Spydercos as Spydercos importer seem to ask lower prices. Last year they did not yet have any axises but they did have pinnacle, afck and sentinel. Teräase keskus is located in about an hours drive from H but I've never visited that. They should have bigger supply - kershaws , rekats,BM's, spydercos and some others. In Oulu region Egils sells many brands. I've bought most of my folders through net. If you want to discuss more about these in finnish send me mail.
 
Anders wrote:
"Some Spyderco models have been smeared in the local yellow press, labeled as cop killers, designed to pierce kevlar, etc."

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I'd be interested to know what exactly was written about them. Can you quote any of the stories?
 
Kevlar vests are not designed to stop blades to begin with so even a dull Swiss Army knife will go through a bullet resistant vest. Think about it, the body armor vests are sewn together !! that means a sewing needle went through the resistant fabric ???? if a needle can go through so can a knife!!!
There are vests designed for corrections officers that are designed to stop edged weapons. So in that frame of mind the "press" is being misleading as usual .
Vests are designed with a specific purpose and a specific rating as to the hazard they will defeat. My department issued level 2A vests made from Spectra. They will defeat most common pistol rounds up to a 44 magnum. They are marked in large letters on the makers label that they will NOT stop an edged weapon.
It's like the "cop killer" bullets. There is no such thing.
Just use and enjoy your knife and tell them to F* uck off because they don't know what they are talking about.
 
mnblades:

The article was in Finnish, but here's a rough translation of the kind of bull that the local tabloids write to boost their sales. The paper in which the article was published excells in labeling any weapons as "large caliber" (meaning bigger than .22), "dangerous" (duh) or "lethal" (yeah right). I guess that kind of an approach appeals to sheeple who are scared to leave their homes anyhow, even though crime rate is dropping all the time... Here's what they said:

Finnish Security Police (our feds) have issued a warning to police departments throughout the country concernings a type of knives found on drug offenders. The knives in question are high-quality, American-made and have been in production for several years. These knives are dangerous because (here's the "fun" part) "they can be opened fast and discreetly using one hand, thanks to the round hole in the blade, and they have a clip that enables concealed carry in waist band, behind the back, etc, making them easy to overlook when frisking a suspect. These knives are capable of piercing police-issue bulletproof vests."

Then there was a low-resolution photo of Spydercos that could have been Endura, Native or just about any modern production folder with a hole in the blade.

I think the Security were just telling cops to watch their backs. The paper then turned a run-of-the-mill inter-agency memo into a red-alert warning, hoping to sell more issues to concerned citizens.

I think it turned out fine, because one local dealer immediately sold out all of his pointed Spydercos:D and none of the sheepfoot rescue designs. Wonder how much Spyderco paid the paper for free publicity ;) Incidentally, most knife-related crimes in Finland involve a bread knife or a one-dollar Mora-puukko with red plastic handle, and expensive name-brand folders are in general used by decent tax payers. On the other hand, the memo in question could be the first step towards banning the sale of any pointed folding knifes. It sounds ridiculous, but autos, throwers, bayonets and daggers are already banned, along with collapsible and spring batons. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see folders go next :mad:
 
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