Spyderco Temperence fixed blade - passaround #2

DaveH

DaveH

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You may remember the "Passaround from Hell", that was the first temperenace fixed blade passaround, but I'm gonna give it a go again. This is still US addresses, sorry for those Canada folks.

The knife is a Temperance fixed blade with sheath.

Here's the info page:

http://www.spyderco.com/dealer_prod...1010&mscssid=9TBQK2P559A89MN0N8H1DCSMFTGHFVFE
Passaround rules:

- US addresses only.

- Keep it 3 days then pass it on.

- Ship USPS, priority and insured to the next person.

- Please, Please, Please Post at least a little bit about what you used it for as well as your impressions. Even if it's only a line or two, as it helps to keep interest up.

- Sharpen if need be before passing it on.

- Go immediately to the Spyderco forum and thank Sal.

- To Signup send me:

Forum name
email address
Real address
phone

I reserve the right to not sign you up if you're on my blacklist.

Also read and understand the following:

This comprises the "Shrink Wrap Warranty" for the passaround knife that is decribed elsewhere in this message. By participating in the passaround you agree and warrant that:

- You are considered an adult under your jurisdiction.

- You can legally posses, carry, ship and receive the passaround knife.

- You take full responsibility for this knife and it's use while in your possession.

- That you are participating in research and your comments and conversations about the passaround knife are limited to BladeForums.

Let's make this a one with 6 people.

Thanks All!

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MW740
T Erdelyi
Leroys_45
 
This is twilight zoninsh. I was reading the Temperence passaround (from hell) thread just yesterday. I'm in the market for the serrated version and was reading any and all reviews I could dig up.

Anyhoo, I participated in the Lum Chinese passaround, so I'll pass on this one and give someone else a shot at it. :)
 
Harry, if you want on no problem.

Also I think when passarounds loose some of their shine it's harder to get people interested.
 
Dave, when it gets back and if there is no more interest I would like to be on the list for if/when it comese to Canada. :)
 
Johnclarke,

I'm not sure about the Canada thing, 4.s.ter looked into it for me and it equates to a big PIA, $$$ and 3 months extra time just crossing the border.

I'm thinking about it, but at the moment I don't have that kinda fight in me, sorry. :(
 
Here's the basic content of an email I sent to DaveH regarding the problems getting a passaround knife into (and out of) Canada. Bottom line, as Dave mentions, its a PIA and costs a fair amount also. This would likely be somewhat different (more difficult) if someone else received/imported a passaround knife because I live in a border city with a Canada Customs office in town. I think we were just lucky that the Spyderco Lum Chinese didn't get caught up in this process like the recent Impala passaround did.



I talked to Canada Customs and here is the story. For an importation of knives, on a non-business basis (i.e. individual to individual) Customs wants to make sure that they have "control" (read - they want to make sure I don't beat them out of some money). They're concerned that I may say that I'm going to return the knife back to the USA and then keep them and they won't get their taxes on the imported goods.

Therefore, if I import a passaround knife I have to make a temporary import declaration to Customs when I bring it (or receive it by mail or shipper) into Canada. I also have to pay the applicable taxes - 7% GST and 8% PST. The taxes are calculated on a fair market value. They will accept a value estimate if it seems reasonable. No duty is now paid due to NAFTA.

When I export the knives I have to go to customs and get an exportation form from them. I then apply TO OTTAWA (where Customs headquarters is located) for a refund of the taxes paid. I then wait 8 - 10 weeks for the refund (their estimate so it will likely be much longer). They would be able to refund the money locally but since it is a WEAPON involved it MUST be processed by their head office. The fact the WEAPONS are involved (I tried the "hand tool" argument but I might as well have been talking about an AK-47) gets them real excited.

So the situation is that if I import a knife and estimate its value at $100.00 US or approximately $160.00 CDN I will have to pay $24.00 in taxes, then wait for the pass-around to complete, plus 8 - 10 weeks more (at least) to get get the refund. When I add the cost of me shipping twice (to the second participant and then back to you Dave) it really is getting a bit expensive to proceed in this manner. Unfortunately, I think that the passarounds to Canada are really going to prove either costly or difficult.



Hope this explains the problems - sorry for the length of the post
 
I'd like to take part.

Dave, I really have to thank you for these passarounds. They give me oportunities I wouldn't have otherwise.
 
4 s ter, thanks for the reply, I would have had to go back through and find your email.
 
I received the temperence back today.

I want to thank everyone as it's been well taken care of and it arrived well and securely packaged.
 
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