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Does anyone else think it's too expensive? Seems like a great idea but can't stomache the idea of paying the same as a delica for a worthless non-knife.
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BM trainers are slightly less expensive than their sharper siblings. Still overpriced I think; the grinding and sharpening of a blade makes up a fair deal of the production cost - I'd say. Both brands should offer these knifes for no more than half the normal cost.
Unless... They don't do this in order not to persuade people to make their own grindings and edges for free!
Unless... They don't do this in order not to persuade people to make their own grindings and edges for free!
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I think the term "worthless non knife" is inaccurate when talking of the spyderco trainers. Safe practice with tools of similar size, weight, and action have seemed helpful to my experience in MBC. My Gunting and Endura trainers have been worth it to my path.
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Making a blade "safe" takes a lot more than just grinding off the edge, or leaving a blade blank as-is. The trainers in effect just have a different grind than the usual live blades, while the locking mechanisms and such are exactly the same. The cost is cut somewhat as the blades aren't as finished or as complex (and in many cases made of an "inferior" (easier to machine) steel).
I doubt there's *any* way to make a folder trainer cost half the price of the live version.
I doubt there's *any* way to make a folder trainer cost half the price of the live version.
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What he said. The grinding of the blade is not the major component in putting together a knife, especially a folder. You have the handle materials, the locking mechanism, the fitting and the finishing plus the R&D that went into making the knife (it's the same that went into the live blade). Plus using a trainer that's basically identical (weight, size, operation) makes the transition to the live blade that much easier. It's not just some cheapie clone you're getting, it's virtually the same knife.
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You obviously don't understand what this thing is. It's not a knife. It's a training tool. To compare it to a knife is an apples-to-oranges comparison. They are different tools for different purposes. Is it a non-knife? Yes. Is to worthless? No. To those who want to do such things, it is highly valuable because it allows you to practice and learn combative knife techniques with relative safety. That's very valuable... could safe your life.
And why do you think a trainer should cost less than a live-blade? It's the same parts and materials. It's the same assembly. The blade profile is different, but it's profiled and profiling costs about the same regardless of shape (unless you get into exotic profiles). It's not sharpened, but sharpening is a very small fraction of a knife's cost. It should cost about the same.
