Spyderco's 15V with BBB heat treat

el gigantor

el gigantor

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Apparently 15V has very poor corrosion resistance. Just wondering if the heat treat Spyderco is using on their new PM2 and Shaman helps improve it at all. Can anyone with hands-on experience with the steel please chime in? I know it's not a "stainless steel", but I'm wondering what other tool steels this variant can be compared to.

I'm in a rain forest but I love me a good Shaman! I'm wondering how much I'll need to baby the knife if I end up grabbing one.
 
There is a thread about here on bf

BBB 15v use reports?

If you haven’t got one yet. Amareican Edge Corp is dropping some tonight at TONIGHT at 7:30pm Central Time Saw that, thanks. Still probably won't be fast enough. The cheapest flipper I've seen here at BFs for the Shaman has been $320. Nope. :poop: Finally found a good price on a 15V PM2...
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com

There is also a similar thread on the Spyderco forum

 
Swp321 said:
There is a thread about here on bf

BBB 15v use reports?

If you haven’t got one yet. Amareican Edge Corp is dropping some tonight at TONIGHT at 7:30pm Central Time Saw that, thanks. Still probably won't be fast enough. The cheapest flipper I've seen here at BFs for the Shaman has been $320. Nope. :poop: Finally found a good price on a 15V PM2...
www.bladeforums.com www.bladeforums.com

There is also a similar thread on the Spyderco forum

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Much obliged! Mods, please delete the thread. I have the info I need.
 
el gigantor said:
Apparently 15V has very poor corrosion resistance. Just wondering if the heat treat Spyderco is using on their new PM2 and Shaman helps improve it at all. Can anyone with hands-on experience with the steel please chime in? I know it's not a "stainless steel", but I'm wondering what other tool steels this variant can be compared to.

I'm in a rain forest but I love me a good Shaman! I'm wondering how much I'll need to baby the knife if I end up grabbing one.
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It will be more reactive than 3V and Cruwear, but less reactive than M4, A2 and 52100.

I live in a temperate rainforest 🌧️
Just keep it dry, let it patina, use "barkeepers friend" powder to clean when necessary.
 
I'll have one in a few days. I would term where I live a temperate rain-forest also. Here M4 is very reactive. Cruwear is utterly stainless so in-between will be interesting.
 
el gigantor said:
Apparently 15V has very poor corrosion resistance. Just wondering if the heat treat Spyderco is using on their new PM2 and Shaman helps improve it at all. Can anyone with hands-on experience with the steel please chime in? I know it's not a "stainless steel", but I'm wondering what other tool steels this variant can be compared to.

I'm in a rain forest but I love me a good Shaman! I'm wondering how much I'll need to baby the knife if I end up grabbing one.
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I’ll let you know
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DeadboxHero said:
It will be more reactive than day3V and Cruwear, but less reactive than M4, A2 and 52100.

I live in a temperate rainforest 🌧️
Just keep it dry, let it patina, use "barkeepers friend" powder to clean when necessary.
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Rock on, Shawn! Thanks for opening the door! I’m just giving them a few strops end of day. A drop of CLP then to bed with them. Same as my Maxamet and M4 knives.
 
DeadboxHero said:
It will be more reactive than 3V and Cruwear, but less reactive than M4, A2 and 52100.

I live in a temperate rainforest 🌧️
Just keep it dry, let it patina, use "barkeepers friend" powder to clean when necessary.
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I was hoping you'd chime in. Cheers!
 
el gigantor said:
Apparently 15V has very poor corrosion resistance.
Just wondering if the heat treat Spyderco is using... helps improve it at all.
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Typically I don't read the opinions of the Interwebs Experts, so I didn't even know that 15V has poor corrosion resistance. I can only comment on my own experience. I've been carrying a Manix 2 since they first dropped, and the knife doesn't even show any evidence of patination.
 
Well it's here. It has a pretty thick coat of factory oil on the blade, first I can recall with that. Normally for the tool steel versions they have the silica pack and that's it.

Better cut up some citrus later and see what happens.
 
Danke42 said:
Well it's here. It has a pretty thick coat of factory oil on the blade, first I can recall with that. Normally for the tool steel versions they have the silica pack and that's it.

Better cut up some citrus later and see what happens.
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Like me, you’ll see magic unfold. The way this baby cuts……😻
 
Larrin said:
What is “very poor corrosion resistance”? It’s a non-stainless steel, it’s not going to act like a stainless.
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Ha! You're the last person I'm going to get into a discussion with about this, primarily because I don't know what I'm talking about and you most certainly do.

I was on a website a few days back, reading about 15V (without the BBB heat treat) and the phrase "very poor corrosion resistance" was there. Please note, in my opening remarks I used the word "apparently" to start off, because I was going on second-hand information.

I also said "I know it's not a "stainless steel", but I'm wondering what other tool steels this variant can be compared to." Those exact words should denote I'm not expecting it to act like a stainless steel.

You and I have never spoken before, but I'm well aware of who you are. Your response comes off like you're almost insulted by my initial post. Why is that?
 
el gigantor said:
And you saw "very poor corrosion resistance" and skipped reading the rest of my post.

Whatever man, have a good night.
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Now, now.

It is difficult to communicate and "read into things" in text format without tone and body language.

I wouldn't get upset here. You are not being attacked.

Larrin is just sharing objectively.

Yes, it is not a stainless steel. Also, the heat treatment cannot make it into a stainless steel either.

Yes, it is not as reactive as 1095, Yes, it is more reactive than 3V.
 
Larrin said:
What is “very poor corrosion resistance”? It’s a non-stainless steel, it’s not going to act like a stainless.
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You’ve really turned me into a steel enthusiast with Magnacut, M4, Maxamet and 15v all gracing my choices! I have zero concern regarding corrosion resistance. I’m telling you, boxes and cardboard fear me. 😇👍
 
DeadboxHero said:
Now, now.
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It is difficult to communicate and "read into things" in text format without tone and body language.

I wouldn't get upset here. You are not being attacked.

Larrin is just sharing objectively.

Yes, it is not a stainless steel. Also, the heat treatment cannot make it into a stainless steel either.

Yes, it is not as reactive as 1095, Yes, it is more reactive than 3V.
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Hi Shawn, I am so happy to be on board this train. Just looking for a BBB Manix 2 in 15v to finish my trio! Cheers!
 
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