Squishy/spongy leather

navman

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Just ordered and received two double shoulders from a well known leather supply company, advertised as being good for sheath and holster work. When I received it, there were large section of the hide exhibiting pronounced pebble finish and feel like a semi stiff hand sanding sponge. I finished one sheath and ended up tossing it as it was just not up to my standards. Is there anything that can be done to compact or case the leather?

I have attempted soaking and pounding with a smaller, kinda worked.
 
can't fix crappy leather. I'd guess that roughly 1/3 of most cuts go to waste.
 
That's what I thought. :(
 
One time I tried an experiment with some leather like you describe. I followed the example of what Horsewright Horsewright described in an older tutorial or WIP where he described baking his sheaths, but I exaggerated his methods a bit. Sorry, I don't have a link for it.

I made a formed-leather sheath and, altho I don't recall all the details this number of years later, I baked the sheath in the oven on low heat for a while, longer I think than Horsewright Horsewright showed. Once it was cooled a bit I coated it with beeswax which further stiffened it up.

I considered my adaption of his process to be a kind of work-around for poor leather but as I said, it was an experiment. The sheath actually turned out to be a success in my books, it is rigid and the knife pops into place wonderfully.

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Just ordered and received two double shoulders from a well known leather supply company, advertised as being good for sheath and holster work. When I received it, there were large section of the hide exhibiting pronounced pebble finish and feel like a semi stiff hand sanding sponge. I finished one sheath and ended up tossing it as it was just not up to my standards. Is there anything that can be done to compact or case the leather?

I have attempted soaking and pounding with a smaller, kinda worked.
Can you post pics of the leather and in particular the bad areas? Also where is it from?

It sounds like slicking or glassing might help. This is getting the leather damp and then, as the color is coming back into it, rubbing firmly with aa hard object. Many commercial slickers are tempered glass mounted in a wooden handle hence the term glassing. I made my own using a block of ligume vitae wood and rounding the polishing the corners. These used to be made commercially so some folks call it slicking cause that is what you are doing to the leather. You are slicking and compressing the fibers making it more uniform throughout. I do this to all standard veg tan projects and absolutely if an item is to be tooled at all.

This piece of scrap has some fat wrinkles in it. This is my ligume vitae block with it. The color is just starting to come back into the leather.

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You can see how uneven the leather is in density after the first part of slicking. Just keep doing it and changing directions and ya'll get it more uniform.

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Much better.

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Slicking really does help take some leather that is so so and make it ok. It will take ok leather and make er pretty darn good.

As far as baking I do this to any leather project that I do that is wet molded. I bake for 3 hours and 45 minutes at 178 degrees. I put the project on four layers of card stock and then put it into the oven on the oven rack. I set an alarm and flip the project at 1 hour and 15 minutes. Reset the alarm and flip it again and reset the alarm and flip it again. I heat up my oil for the last fifteen minutes and everything is oiled once it is out of the oven.

During the molding process:

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Laid out on the card stock:

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Process of flipping. The bottom rack has been flipped and the top still needs to be.

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After oiling they come back into the house and sit on the kitchen counter overnight to let the oil set and the sheath to fully dry.

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Next morning the sheaths have their edges rubbed and they are finished with BagKote. Roughout will take longer for the oil to set:

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Many years ago I didn't set a timer and I baked a batch overnight because I forgot about them. 30 odd sheaths in that batch. Yeah I had to start over. Set an alarm, I made sheath jerky without it.
 
I'll get a picture when I get home from vacation. Double Shoulders from Weaver.
 
Just wondering how dinner tastes after a day of that going on.....😉

In my mind I imagine horsewright has a cooky on his ranch that only makes food outside in cast iron. I hope I’m at least partially right haha.


Hope you get your leather situation going navman navman . That’s a mess. Would the softer pieces be usable as strips/straps for projects?
 
Just wondering how dinner tastes after a day of that going on.....😉
In my mind I imagine horsewright has a cooky on his ranch that only makes food outside in cast iron. I hope I’m at least partially right haha.


Hope you get your leather situation going navman navman . That’s a mess. Would the softer pieces be usable as strips/straps for projects?
Close. Last branding I was at there was a separate fire for Cookie. This is a different outfit though.

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Nuther fire for the irons:

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Cookie's chuckwagon on our outfit:

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Serving breakfast to the crew:

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Ya never know what he's gonna do for dinner:

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Steaks of course:

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But spicy shrimp too?

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Crew was happy:

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On the spongy leather. It's usually not any good for straps. Just too stretchy.
 
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