Stag handles- good or bad ?

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Hello all,
I am considering purchaseing one of Bob Dozier's fixed blades. I like the look of stag handles? I have never used a knife with stag. Does anyoone have stag on their knifes? Do you like it or dis-like stag ? Does it hold up or scratch easy?
Thanks guys,
Jay
 
I hope this prompts Buzzbait to post a pic of his stag Dozier. Woohoo!

Stag - I like it :)
 
Just one from the other camp - no I don't like it.

I don't like the look of it particularly, but that is going to be down to individual taste. To my mind, it is cliched.

Aside from that, you will not get the same grip quality with it as you will G10 or Micarta. Nor will it wear as well.
 
I love the look of stag, and it feels really good too. Both Buzzbait and Mongo have very nice Dozier knives with great stag handles. One thing that has to be considered with stag on a full tang knife is the shrinkage. Sooner or later, the stag WILL shrink and you will be able to see and feel the sharp exposed steel tang. This is one reason why I buy very few full tang knives with natural handle materials. Ironwood is somewhat of an exception though. It seems to shrink very little. Yes, my only Dozier knife currently has ironwood handles. ;)
 
Stag is my all time favorite handle material. But I do like it better on hidden tang knives, for the reason Danbo stated.

I have an old Ruana with some of the most beautiful scales you ever saw, and they are pretty old. It is a great handle material.
 
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Stag is the material that good looking women and beer are made of. It is the material that holds the universe together in some sense of viable cohesion. Everything should have a stag handle.

Okay. Stag isn’t as durable as man-made materials. It’ll crack if you beat the snot out of it. It is not very chemical resistant. You also have to keep the stag from drying out. The oils from your hands will do the job, but a yearly mineral oil soak will do better if you don’t constantly use the knife. I’m not saying that stag is like glass or abalone, but you do have to care for it. The care is actually one of the things I love about stag. If you take care of, it’ll do the same for you. You form a symbiotic relationship with natural handle materials, which you can’t do with plastic.

I agree that full tang knives tend to show a bit of movement on all natural handle materials, but……. My stag Dozier K-4 has not moved one bit since I got it. I have wood handled knives that show a lot of movement. I guess it’s a matter of how dense and dry the stag is before it’s used. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. Bob Dozier has some great stag.

Honestly, you buy stag because of the way it looks and feels. If you’re a stag lover, there’s nothing else even close. No, it’s not indestructible like Micarta or G-10, but it’s certainly no slouch. Stag has been a natural tool material of choice since the dawn of man. Millions of people over thousands of years have used stag. Stag brings you back to what knives have always been about. It’s not only a handle, but also a lesson in the history of man.
 
Buzzbait - Awsome knif anyone would be proud to own
 
Buzzbait, are you married?

I have some nice Loomis rods! ;)

Awesome photo and YES, stag ROX!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Yes, she is a beauty. Besides the usual great Bob Dozier quality, the stag really makes this knife a treat to use. I have knives that are sometimes better suited to certain circumstances, but I often end up carrying Doris anyways. She has become a part of what defines who I am. Natural handle materials will do that to you. Once you’ve carried a stag handled knife for a while, it grows on you. It’s as if your hand comes to expect all of those little crannies and creases in the stag.

You can mold or grind a plastic handled knife to perfectly fit your hand, and call it a perfect fitting handle, but that is merely an illusion. That fact is that the human hand is very supple and forgiving. You can hold a stag handled knife, with all of its “imperfections” in texture and shape, and the human hand will conform to these irregularities, as long as the irregularities aren’t outrageous. As a matter of fact, the hand will make use of the irregularities to enhance the grip on the knife. The natural hand was made to use natural handle materials. We, as humans, were designed to make use of our environments. To completely disregard this fact is to turn our heads to who we really are.

You can use a knife with a man-made handle material all day long, and get the job done well. But to truly experience what it is to be we are, and feel how our bodies are designed for tool use, natural materials provide a terrifically rewarding experience.

Can you tell that I'm off my medications? Hehehehe....... ;)

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When stag meets steel in perfect harmony, you have something like Doris.

To say that it speaks to you may be an exaggeration but it is not an exaggeration to say that it touches your senses and makes you glad everytime you hold it in your hand.

The Chinese have two words for such an item or occasion - "yung pao".
I believe it means something that is to be cherished forever.
 
Looks - I guess it's a purely personal taste thing - but there are many who love stag handles - some of Bob Loveless more desirable drop points (mega $$$s) are stag handled.

Stag has been used for centuries as handles -
so that's evidence, even if it will not outlast something like Micarta or G-10, it is more than resilient and usable for knife handles.

I personally think stag is beautiful -
form and function.

Of course being a natural material the looks can vary - but if one can see the knife and handle some very Staggeringly beautiful examples can be found.

Here's one of my favorite fixed blades by

Bill "Gordon" DeFreest of South Carolina

Loveless/George Herron style 4" drop-point
4" mirror polished hollow-ground blade of ATS-34, 8.5" overall length

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often knives have one side that's beautiful and the other side so-so - not this one:

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I would never have guessed, looking at photos posted about the place, given his interests and so on, that Buzzbait wrote copy for an advertising agency for a living. Even by that standard however, I have to say "...the material that holds the universe together in some sense of viable cohesion." is rather astounding.

Look to be serious, of course this is subjective. At the same time though, the fact that something has been used for centuries only says so much. Meaning it has sentiment and/or tradition attached to it, or something like that. But what it does not say is - that is the way it should always be. If it were, you wouldn't own a car.

Just about anyone who uses grips for anything where fine motor skills are called for - tennis, golf, archery, shooting, whatever - will be bound to agree that the substances used even ten years ago are not as good as those available now. In cases where resilience is added in, as it is with a knife, that applies twice over.

There might well be 'romance' in Stag, at one with nature and all that, but that is up to the individual. Even then, I'd prefer Mammoth Ivory myself, if I were inclined that way. In any event, on a bald usage basis, nothing else, no way stag can compete with modern man-made materials.

That doesn't mean Buzz's and the DeFreet's knife aren't attractive. They are. Doesn't alter the rest though.
 
I can't add much here, Buzz's first post made me a little misty-eyed. ;) I am becoming quite the stag-hag myself... I love the way it looks and feels. To me, it adds the "soul" to a knife. My current count is 5, soon to add #6. There will certainly be more... I picked up a nice stag antler tip at the badger show for a future project... probably for my wife as she expressed the first glimmers of being a knife-knut when she saw my recently acquired Craig Camerer bird and trout. Maybe one day I will branch off into some mammoth ivory too. The memory of Kevin Cashen's damascus and mammoth ivory bowie that I saw at the Badger show is haunting me!
Mongo
 
Originally posted by switched
I would never have guessed, looking at photos posted about the place, given his interests and so on, that Buzzbait wrote copy for an advertising agency for a living.

Doh!!! Snagged again!!! Next thing you know, I'll be trying to sell some valuable and much needed corrosion insurance to you guys with talonite blades. ;)
 
I must say that there is something about natural materials that can't be measured. But it can be felt. Holding one of my black handled folders doesn't give me the same sensation as when I hold one of my khukuris. Be it wood or horn these things come alive in the hand and each has a personality of its own. Logical? No. But undeniable just the same.

Frank
 
A "palm" skinner by Russ Easler of South Carolina -
2.5" satin-rubbed blade of ATS-34, 5.75" overall length
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