Staglon 97OT Trapper

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The top knife is one I just bought, but not yet received. It's tangstamp is 97OT. The bottom knife is a stock 97OT with all the appendages, saw, pick, and tweezers.



These knives can be found with the same handles, but the second blade of the 96OT/296Y/TRT96, and master blade stamped SCHRADE+USA LTD. This next one is similar, if not exactly the same as mine, posted back in February by Redshanks.

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As you can see, his includes the locking sawblade. I'm not sure this one does, but I'll find out when it arrives. These Staglon versions are built on the same 4 1/8" frame as the 296OTY/TRT96.



I feel pretty certain they were put together for a shielded SFO, but I don't know which one. I'll do a bit of research and headscratching and see what I can find. Any help you can give would be appreciated.

Codger
 
I knew I was close when I found these!



And then I found this:



The January 2005 SMKW catalog.
 
AH Hah. I have been wondering about these two knives for several months now. I have one (meaning your first post and top picture with the single blade) just like yours Codger. I could not figure out why my 97OTdidn't have the saw blade as the other 97OT's did and why it has grips like an Uncle Henry but they called it an OT. I still cant figure that out.
I think you will like the knife its a great size and the blade is a nice shape. I've been carrying mine in my pocket and have had several very nice remarks from many who have seen it. With the exception of one Lady who when I was about to open a cardboard box with tape on it saw my 97OT and screamed at the top of her lungs KNIFE!!!!!!!!! AGhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Well there were about 5 of us around at the time and everyone just stopped and stared at her like----what the heck is wrong with you??? How the heck did you expect us to cut this nylon reinforced tape---- you sheeple bonehead. Anyway good call and thanks for the info.
 
I have the sinlge blade version pictured in the Smoky catalog ad. It is tang marked exactly as the illustration. If memory serves I got it off eBay and it came with a Texas Ranger sheath and was advertised as a Texas Ranger, which , of course it is NOT. At least now I know it's 1095 High Carbon, etc. etc. Thanks Codger. It's still a good knife even if it's not a Texas Ranger and it did come in brand new condition.

Paul
 
You're welcome guys.. sometimes I just get a wild hare up...well, anyway, don't take claims from SMKW or even Schrade catalogs of 1095HC too seriously after '91-'96. Just because they have OT marks does not mean they are carbon blades, though the myth survives. It is myth-information. I'll test mine when it comes and see. Cut an apple and if it darkens, it is carbon.

Codger
 
Boy mine sure doesn't look like carbon --- please let me know. I have been carrying this in my pocket for several months now and I dont see any discoloration at all. Just like Sheathmaker I got mine off of ebay. I dont think I paid too much for the knife but have sure enjoyed it. Thank you Codger. Also -- Codger what's up with the Uncle Henry Staglon Grips but with an OT mark?
 
xbxb, the first e-bay link you sent above, I do not think that the box and knife come from the same era, The box seems to be from the 70s, Codger may know exactly, yet the knife is from what I understood to be end of days models. even though the box may have 97OT labelled. I also think that the knives are Stainless, I have not tested them to be sure, I have one of each model (saw blade & single) but they are almost the same in apperance as the late design Uncle Henry Schrade+ blades. One thing writing this reply, maybe the saw blade is carbon and the main blade is Stainless.
 
That box was used until circa 2001 when it changed to the blue striped box. While the Cutler and Anvil trademark appeared circa in 1985, the Built to last a lifetime was added circa 1990.

I don't have one of those DU clampacks shown earlier to see exactly when they were produced, but were likely made for several years. The SDU4CPT two blade Staglon trapper was shown in 2001 literature where the blades are described as stainless. The Schrade Knives and Tools logo on the one pack appeared circa 2002. The saw blade Staglon trapper knife appears as the SDU6CPT (clampack tin) in the 2003 catalog with the "NEW" banner, and a note of SCHRADE+ steel. The SDU197CPT is listed as new in 2004. That is the one blade knife. As was the case with most knives in 2004, the steel is not listed. As Paul already suggested, the two blade trapper with Staglon was indeed used for a shielded and etched commemorative Texas Ranger edition. That was in 2000.
 
sheathmaker said:
I have the sinlge blade version pictured in the Smoky catalog ad. It is tang marked exactly as the illustration. If memory serves I got it off eBay and it came with a Texas Ranger sheath and was advertised as a Texas Ranger, which , of course it is NOT. At least now I know it's 1095 High Carbon, etc. etc. Thanks Codger. It's still a good knife even if it's not a Texas Ranger and it did come in brand new condition.

Paul
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We must have bought from the same seller Paul. :D :D
I have used mine a little, but haven't tested it. I assumed it to be stainless. Now I will have to dig it out and see.

Dale
 
I bought the knife in Dec. of 2005 from ideal outdoors on ebay the ad was similar to the one I just posted below however it was for the single blade not the Buzz saw. It did not come with a box.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Schrade-USA-Old...hZ020QQcategoryZ48820QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem One of the things he printed was that the knife was stainless, however when I looked at the picture it did not show SCHRADE+ just SCHRADE, 97OT. So I thought ok well either I don't have all the information about Scharde and their designations, or I do, and he does not know what he is talking about and this knife is carbon vs. stainless. So I bought the knife not knowing if it was Stainless or Carbon. When I received the knife I put it to use doing everyday stuff like all pocket knives and figured that if it was carbon I would know after a fairly short period of time. Well so far no patina no spots eventhough I have attacked various types of acidic fruits with abandon. I have always kept the knife well oiled and have taken care of it. But after 8 mos. it should show some patina if it's carbon even if your keeping it oiled. So guys here is the question It seems to me that Schrade has many knives that are stainless but they do not have a + sign after the Schrade name. Am I correct or am I missing something?
 
The 97OT Staglon came yesterday. It is indeed a single blade trapper, very thin. Here is a picture of one complete with box, insert paper #7007180711, copyright 1998, product registration form #EKC01-01 and listing the Schrade website.


As mentioned, the base 97OT with traditional sawcut Delrin handles was first listed in 2000, according to Clemente, so the above knife could be a seller's assemblage, or not. More research is called for!

Codger
 
These uncompleted knives were intended to be 2004 SDU197CPT's. That is a Schrade Ducks Unlimited single blade 97 pattern trapper in a clam packed tin, except these did not get shielded. Productus Interuptus, as it were. Still nice large blade trapper knives in a slim package.


Codger
 
Thanks Del! Same stamp, year, tin? or were they in the standard box, or white SDU box?
 
the same as in your last photo of the knife in the tin

tin with insert part #7180711

knife as pictured - complete with DU shield
 
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CUT it out Arnold...or we'll take away your uploading privleges again. :p

Carry on boys!

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