Startig to think Im over doing it...strength training..

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bored2deth

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So..

2 sets/10 reps

(Weight as per both hands)

Curling..110-120
Upright rowing 110-120
Military pressing 110-120
Shoulder pressing 110-120
Triceps curls 80-90
Lateral and frontal raise 60-70

This is all done back to back without stopping. 5 min break, the second set. Dumbells, plateloaders..so there is effectively more weight..found that out after comparing with fixed weights. Im asking is this too much for focusing on particular groups.
 
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You would probably benefit from some beginners strength training programs.

There isn't a lot of structure or logic in this workout. It is just a mix of upper body isolation exercises.

Look at compound movements...
Squat, deadlift, weighted pull up, weighted dips, clean and jerk, push up progressions to hand stand push up.
 
Used to use Bill Pearls programs, the all-round athlete in particular. What i listed is just a piece of what i do. Pushups/situps in the morning and evening. Pullups, dips in the afternoon. I also bench press and deadlift, and bent over rowing. Squats, bc of my knee, are out of the question for me. I was actually asking is that too much for the upper body, in a short ten to twelve minute session? I use 10-12 reps, typically ten, to build both strength and muscular endurace.

I prefered Bill Pearls methods, as he was my inspiration to train in the first place. Aside from that, for lower body, limited martial arts and lots of walking with weight. Used to train for several hrs at a time..was not good for health..was awful.
 
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When you do that many sets for the same muscle groups, all in one session, that's not really strength training. That's endurance training. Is that what you want to accomplish?
 
Yeesh, ya gotta rest between sets bud
Looks like you're too arm-heavy, really. Some back with the rows. Try hitting the bench, and most importantly, get in the squat rack and move some weight.
For a good starter program, check this out: www.stronglifts.com
Seems good for anyone wanting to get into strength training, and it's free.
 
I was in the same position as you. Then one day i realized my muscle was getting in the way of my day to day life. My arms where to big to put a piece of pipe on my shoulder to carry it(construction worker). So i stopped the gym and hit the pool. Never felt better
 
It's not strength training or muscular endurance. It is body building. Those reps with those exercises are for muscle growth in professional showmen. Showmen who all use steroids and have an abnormal natural propensity for muscle growth and recovery.

For pure strength athletes the weights are not overdone. The reps and lack of recovery is.
 
sideways said:
It's not strength training or muscular endurance. It is body building. Those reps with those exercises are for muscle growth in professional showmen. Showmen who all use steroids and have an abnormal natural propensity for muscle growth and recovery.

For pure strength athletes the weights are not overdone. The reps and lack of recovery is.
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Ah crap..explains my arms and back..well..back to the drawing board..argh.
 
Cougar Allen said:
When you do that many sets for the same muscle groups, all in one session, that's not really strength training. That's endurance training. Is that what you want to accomplish?
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Erm..wanted both..I was told use enough weight for ten reps. But, of course, kept on stacking weight, and moving up in reps.
 
c.t.smith said:
I was in the same position as you. Then one day i realized my muscle was getting in the way of my day to day life. My arms where to big to put a piece of pipe on my shoulder to carry it(construction worker). So i stopped the gym and hit the pool. Never felt better
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Hehe..my cousin hadnt seen me since we were both 17, i was a stick then. His eyes almost popped out. Think I will try a program..just cant do squats.
 
browntown818 said:
Yeesh, ya gotta rest between sets bud
Looks like you're too arm-heavy, really. Some back with the rows. Try hitting the bench, and most importantly, get in the squat rack and move some weight.
For a good starter program, check this out: www.stronglifts.com
Seems good for anyone wanting to get into strength training, and it's free.
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5x5..hmmm..will need more plates for my bars..should be quicker! Going to try it!
 
c.t.smith said:
I was in the same position as you. Then one day i realized my muscle was getting in the way of my day to day life. My arms where to big to put a piece of pipe on my shoulder to carry it(construction worker). So i stopped the gym and hit the pool. Never felt better
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Yeah, the cost of time in maintenence. .isnt worth it. Its fun at first..then it gets to be more like work..and then theres no time for anything or anyone else..weights, martial arts, work, eat sleep, repeat..bleh.
 
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c.t.smith said:
I was in the same position as you. Then one day i realized my muscle was getting in the way of my day to day life. My arms where to big to put a piece of pipe on my shoulder to carry it(construction worker). So i stopped the gym and hit the pool. Never felt better
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B.S. or you have the genetics of a gray back and you should have made a life of winning Mr. olympia. Imho I think most people tend to over-complicate strength training. In reality, all you need is a bar/plates, a bench, and a squat rack with a pull-up station. If you go to a real hardcore gym you won't see all those fancy smanchy machines. The biggest, strongest dudes just use the basics and the basic movements. If you want to gain pure strength and size most people benefit from heavy low reps with a 2 to 5 minute rest between sets. You also need to eat like a pig. Not crap food, lots of protein. On the other hand if you want decent size and endurance go lighter with higher reps and less rest. Still eat well just not as much. I'm no expert, I have just used common sense and read quit a few books. I admire all those who put forth the effort and take the time to workout.
 
Also do what works for you. Arnold had a workout that today people wouldnt believe. And it would focus on one muscle group for a workout. If it xoeznt bother you dont stop. Free weights are always best. One thing i would suggest is be carful with sholder presses. Can be injured serverly very easy
 
bored2deth said:
Well..not so sore. It was quicker, and didnt get to repetitive.
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You should be sore for the muscle you workout for 3 days after strength training. Get lots of water, vitamins and minerals, B6 is key. And a good protein source. Amino acids.

Aim for 5 to 12 reps, do static reps, with a spotter, drop sets, mix it up to keep the muscles from adapting to your training.
 
bored2deth said:
Well..not so sore. It was quicker, and didnt get to repetitive.
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If you just started the stronglifts program, you're probably not going to be sore for the first couple of times you work out. As you add weight each workout, you'll have to work harder and harder. Adding 5 pounds to your squat doesn't sound like a lot, but if you do a serious squat workout 3 days a week, you've added 120 pounds in two months. It adds up very quickly.
 
The 5x5 makes me sore, just not painfully sore as the isolated program i was doing. Upper and medial pectorals are actually very sore, painful when my dog took off on the leash yesterday.
 
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