Starting a fire with a Mora #2. Two F&S methods.

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Just practicing some skills. Getting sparks from knives or other tools is old hat. Guessing someone figured out a long time ago if they didn't have a striker maybe their knife would work. One method is to hold the blade then strike the rock on the spine with a glancing blow. The other is to hold the handle then strike the rock against the spine with a glancing blow. This mirrors the two most commonly used flint and steel methods. Rock hitting steel or steel hitting rock. Of course the one IMHO that has the greatest risk of injury to the user is also the one I find works the best. Holding the blade of the knife. Go figure?



Here is a video with fire. Everyone likes fire.

[video=youtube;kwe_2e0L_So]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwe_2e0L_So[/video]

My advice isn't to do this with your finest custom safe queen on a Sunday bannock, bacon and coffee stroll through the woods. It will bang up the spine. You may strike parts other than your blade like the handle etc.
 
I made some charcloth the other day. I used your knife on flint technique with a Mora 511 and dang if it didn't work:)Thanks for the video.
 
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I made some charcloth the other day. I used your knife on flint technique with a Mora 511 and dang if it didn't work:)Thanks for the video.

Cool. :) IA Woodsman showed the technique in one of his videos igniting natural charred materials some time ago. I can't take credit for it but then again when you're hitting a knife on a rock there isn't much "new" going on. LOL!
 
This is beyond my skill level for sure, but still quite interesting. I believe that this is important for me personally, as I want to know how to create fire with every\any means available. This is something for me to focus on in the future though as I have to walk before I can run. Thanks for the effort.
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Nice video. The second method you showed when where the rock is the striker is usually easier if you stab the knife into a piece of wood for stability and place the charred material below. At least I have better control.

You had me dig up a thread from the past, video long gone. I learned this in the AZ desert almost 10 years ago. I distinctly remember picking up rock after rock and doing it over and over.

Regarding roughing up the back of you knife, it was raining a few weeks ago and I was lighting a fire outside with a strike anywhere match. Usually I just pick up a rock, but everything was was wet, so I used the roughed up spine of my knife and it worked fine. First time I ever did that.
 
This is beyond my skill level for sure, but still quite interesting. I believe that this is important for me personally, as I want to know how to create fire with every\any means available. This is something for me to focus on in the future though as I have to walk before I can run. Thanks for the effort.
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I am a goofy goober so anything I can do betting most could be as well or better. Give it a try.
 
Nice video. The second method you showed when where the rock is the striker is usually easier if you stab the knife into a piece of wood for stability and place the charred material below. At least I have better control.

You had me dig up a thread from the past, video long gone. I learned this in the AZ desert almost 10 years ago. I distinctly remember picking up rock after rock and doing it over and over.

Regarding roughing up the back of you knife, it was raining a few weeks ago and I was lighting a fire outside with a strike anywhere match. Usually I just pick up a rock, but everything was was wet, so I used the roughed up spine of my knife and it worked fine. First time I ever did that.

I got in the habit of not supporting the spine when striking rock on knife with my larger striker knives.

[video=youtube;eoUGjHHSnQg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoUGjHHSnQg[/video]

[video=youtube;h3eF9F3nGEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3eF9F3nGEM[/video]

But a knife with a dead hard carbon steel spine and tempered blade for me toss better sparks than a normally heat treated carbon steel knife. Going to give that jab a log idea a go next time I use the Mora. Also I rather liked the idea of using the spine of the knife for a strike anywhere match. One downside of a beaten up spine is the 90 degree angle gets out of shape. This for me reduces the ability to toss sparks from a firesteel. Granted I could use a sharp rock, packed striker or even the knife's edge if forced to do so. Thanks for the advice. I really enjoyed your Flint and Steel University video.

[video=youtube;F7BWJAGoJlA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7BWJAGoJlA[/video]
 
Thanks Woods Walker. Going to try that method of holding the knife you did too. Looks like it works quite well. Kind regards, Chris
 
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