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What are the differences in the steel used when camillus made beckers and now that kabar makes them. Seems that the kabar beckers take an edge easier.
 
The FAQ has lots of info, but in a nutshell, not much. The Cams were 0170-6 carbon steel, the same stuff as CarbonV that another company used. It has the same basic properties, and is a good steel. Its the heat treat that makes the knife hard to sharpen, though. Cams heat treat was good, but unreliable in the beginning and ending years. But for the most part, they were pretty damn good.

You might have gotten a good one in your BK10, and that's something to be proud of. That's a good knife for wood use and if it has a good HT on it, its a keeper.

Kabars 1095 Mar treatment, is probably the finest HT of 1095 in the business. Rowens is really good too. Others have said that Kabar is taking 1095 about as far as it can go in the HT department.

Moose
 
moosez45 said:
The FAQ has lots of info, but in a nutshell, not much. The Cams were 0170-6 carbon steel, the same stuff as CarbonV that another company used. It has the same basic properties, and is a good steel. Its the heat treat that makes the knife hard to sharpen, though. Cams heat treat was good, but unreliable in the beginning and ending years. But for the most part, they were pretty damn good.

You might have gotten a good one in your BK10, and that's something to be proud of. That's a good knife for wood use and if it has a good HT on it, its a keeper.

Kabars 1095 Mar treatment, is probably the finest HT of 1095 in the business. Rowens is really good too. Others have said that Kabar is taking 1095 about as far as it can go in the HT department.

Moose
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What he said. :D
 
machine26 said:
What are the differences in the steel used when camillus made beckers and now that kabar makes them. Seems that the kabar beckers take an edge easier.
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In talking to Phil Gibbs, who used to work for Camillus, in reading comments from Mr. Becker, and in looking at the existing Kabar hardness spec for 1095 Cro Van, it appears that Camillus heat treated their blades a tad harder. That might account for slightly easier sharpening. As has been said, the alloys themselves are quite similar. Both are based on 1095 Carbon steel and have small additions of Chromium and Vanadium.
 
yeah, almost all of that, except what that guy over there said :>

i think Toooj was quoted as saying "Camillus were optimized to be a tad harder, ours are optimized to be a tad tougher"


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