Steel Experts: CR Mo V ???

LeftytwoGuns

LeftytwoGuns

Joined
Dec 15, 2008
Messages
678
Calling all steel experts please.

My wife has just gotten into this kitchen gadget and gizmo company called papered chef. They have a knife line that is advertised as Forged Cutlery, German Cr Mo V Steel , and it's manufactured in China.

I am assuming they get the steel from Germany, and do the work in China is why it's cheap? ? My standpoint is, that as long as the craftsmanship I.E. the fit and finish etc of the knife is ok, I don't mind so much that it's from China.
My main question here is do any of you have any experience with the steel? I don't. Wondering what other framilliar steels it may be compared to, and is it even worth having.

Now, obviously this isn't the best kitchen knife ever and I'm aware of that. I do own a Ken Onion Shun series so, please don't turn this into a kitchen knife recommendation thread. I just need to know that, if she decides to buy more of these for herself are they worth it, or should I stop her in her tracks?
How can we expect this steel to perform?

Thanks guys, in advance.
-Steve
 
I wouldn't bet on the steel being from Germany. 8Cr13MoV is the Chinese designation for a steel that they consider equivalent to 440C. In Spyderco's Byrd line of knives, it performs a little better than AUS-8. Without numbers in the formula, you don't know what you are getting, aside from steel containing chromium (Cr), molybdenum (Mo) and vanadium (V). Without the proportions, it doesn't really mean anything.
 
I think Cr Mo V w/o specific numbers is more of a generic designation. China makes some steels under that naming convention but that doesn't mean they all come from China. For example, 440 series stainless steel comes from all over the place. I tend to think this example is a German steel, they just don't tell you exactly what the composition is.

I didn't see a lot of reviews for that line of knives but what I have seen appears to be positive. Certainly better than the crappy kitchen knives we have.
 
Thanks for the couple replies fellas, anyone else?

Anyone with some personal experience of these blades, or steel?
Thanks,
-Steve
 
LeftytwoGuns said:
Thanks for the couple replies fellas, anyone else?

Anyone with some personal experience of these blades, or steel?
Thanks,
-Steve
Click to expand...

dsmegst said:
Cr Mo V w/o specific numbers is more of a generic designation.
Click to expand...

"CrMoV" steel means nothing in and of itself. It'd be like saying "Rostfrei" or "Surgical stainless".
 
the chinese have a bevy of alloys . yours is probably 8cr13 which is a decent steel if heat treated good.my experience with the 8cr13 in the byrd line is very positive.3 steels of theirs you will see most of the time, 8crmo14, 9cr13 mo,& 8cr13mov.
 
I use my kershaw flitch 8CR13mov knife everyday I put a Ken onion Work Sharp edge on there and now it's one of my most badass handling knives!
 
Let’s not forget that this could also mean 3Cr and 5Cr. Honestly, I would contact the manufacturer and ask about the steel. Otherwise, without having the knife sent off for composition analysis, it’s just gonna be guesswork on our part.

If you’re lucky, it’ll be 9cr.
 
Superdave1 said:
Check the dates on this thread
Click to expand...

Haha, wow. Just noticed that.

We still need closure, though. It’s now a mystery that has been unsolved for eight and half years, and the OP hasn’t been on since 2010. Perhaps he uncovered a secret that cost him his life...! Alternatively, Lefty might be on the run from a shadow organization that is intentionally vague about the composition of their CrMoV steel.

We need answers!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top