Steel liners?

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Hello there.

I've come here wondering if you folks can point out which Cold Steel folders have steel liners?

I know they're plenty strong already, I just like the idea of having some metal in there, but it's hard to find that information online.

At least, in the time that my attention span allows.

Thanks in advance!
 
Spartan, Rajah II, Rajah III, SR1, G10 Espadas (abbreviated)
That's all I could think of.
 
Some also have nested aluminum liners, i prefer these over steel if given a choice since they're plenty strong but also will never rust. Dont have to worry about getting a bit of moisture in there. Voyager series and Counter Point series have these. Another knife with g10 with liners is the 4max, it has titanium liners.
 
hermit dave said:
Cold Steel uses stainless steel liners, though they call them steel.
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Yes im aware the steel used in most manufacturers liners is "stainless" but even stainless steel rusts when you get water in the liners. Thats why i prefer their aluminum or titanium liners. The voyagers and counter points have aluminum liners not conventional stainless steel.
 
The sheet metal stainless they use is most likely 304-2B. It is ultra low carbon with a lot of chromium and nickel. It is more corrosion resistant than the 6061-T6 aluminum they use in the Voyager line. Aluminum will corrode in the form of aluminum oxide, which will give
the metals surface a white powdery appearance. Moisture trapped between a threaded aluminum hole and stainless screw will eat away the
threads over time.
I have over 30 years in Precision sheet metal and speak from hands on experience.
 
hermit dave said:
The sheet metal stainless they use is most likely 304-2B. It is ultra low carbon with a lot of chromium and nickel. It is more corrosion resistant than the 6061-T6 aluminum they use in the Voyager line. Aluminum will corrode in the form of aluminum oxide, which will give
the metals surface a white powdery appearance. Moisture trapped between a threaded aluminum hole and stainless screw will eat away the
threads over time.
I have over 30 years in Precision sheet metal and speak from hands on experience.
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Fair enough if it's your line of work and all due respect. But as you stated "sheet metal stainless they use is most likely" isn't a fact, nor is it stated anywhere unless you can produce a fact or spec sheet of their liner composition. And since i've witness from first hand experience that every single manufacturer that makes knives these days with "stainless liners" has had spots of rust over the years after disassembly, i'll continue to believe that even tho aluminum (while it can corrode) is actually better at resisting small scale day to day surface rust issues than the steel knife companies use in liners. These spotty rusted liners have been simply from the weather or no deliberate exposure at all to water or any elements, almost as if just from normal hand moisture creeping into the crack between liners and g10. I've seen it for over a decade on my knives and knives from other users. ZT, Benchmade, Spyderco have ALL had surface rust on liners that i've pulled apart for maintenance over the past 13 years. ZT is actually the worst offender, pull apart the majority of 550's or 560's and i'll bet you'll see rust in 70% of cases. My voyagers that get dunked in water from time to time? not a single spec of discoloration for years. So i'll base my opinion on that, even tho i know and respect you know your stuff when it comes to metal composition. Most of these knife companies use cheap ass stainless steel in their liners just because well, it's a liner, and it's saves on cost and adds strength without jacking up the price.
 
Spartan, Rajah II, Rajah III, SR1, G10 Espadas, Voyager series, and the Counter Point series.

And of course, the 4Max.

Sigh. One day, it will be mine.

Thanks, fellas!

And, in the interest of encouraging cordial exchange, I should say that I misspoke in my OP. To tell the honest truth, the actual composition of the liners isn't important to me, because the effect is purely psychological: having them there makes me feel good, even though I have an intellectual appreciation of the fact that G-10 is plenty strong enough to take the forces which are transferred to it. As we've all seen, the blade fails, first.

Thanks, again.
 
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