Steel Question

[Storky]

Hello, i'm a newbie in this forum.
My name is Markus and i live in germany.
First of all, sorry for my english

Now the question. I bought a very nice Schrade single blade trapper on ebay. If the knife arrived, i felt in love with the first look.
The scales are made of Staglon and the tang is stamped SCHRADE U.S.A 97OT. What kind of steel is used for the blade
The Seller think it is a high carbon steel but he don't know which one.
Another little question. Is Staglon equal to Delrin
Many thanks for your attention and your help!!!

Have a knife day

Markus

 

[OTguy]

The knife you got is one that was a final production run just before Schrade closed down. These were put together with the materials at hand to use frames, blades, bolsters, etc. that would fit together as a knife. Look at the tangstamp at the bottom of the blade. If it says Schrade+, then its most likely 420HC stainless. If there is no Schrade+, then it may be carbon steel. The only way to tell for certain if its carbon steel is to cut a apple or some other fruit and see if the steel stains or discolors, if it does, its carbon steel. Its hard to tell if all the knives in this final run got stainless blades or if a few were luckey and got carbon steel. I have a example of these final run knives similar to yours with a stainless blade, except mine also has a saw blade, which is the original 97OT configuration for the blades. A real 97OT has brown derlin scales, not the staglon derlin. Both the brown derlin and staglon derlin are good handle materials, equal in durability.

You got a good knife anyways, enjoy it because they really don't make'em like this anymore.

 

[Storky]

Thank for you for sharing this information. I think you are right. It's a really good Knife and it's my new EDC/EDU since it arrived.
I plan to buy another one (or two ) for reserve.

best regards

Markus

 

[textoothpk]

Welcome to our forum, Storky. And your English is a lot better than my German. OTGuy answered your question, but here is a pic of the 97OT. It is one of my favorite knives, and I carry mine when hunting.

Phil

 

[Storky]

Welcome to our forum, Storky. And your English is a lot better than my German. OTGuy answered your question, but here is a pic of the 97OT. It is one of my favorite knives, and I carry mine when hunting.

Phil

Thanks a lot for your friendly welcome. I rarely need to talk or write in english, so my english is very bumpy
The knive shown in the pic is real nice. I love the old school slipjoints. Nowadays many people think a knife must have a tacticle look, hightech steel and handle materials. But in my opion these old fashioned slipies made by Schrade, Case and so on are truly good EDC. Sure not even for hard (ab)use but for everyday work.
So i'm glad finding this forum.

greetings

Markus

PS: by and by my english become better (hope so )

 

[Codger_64]

Your English is fine. And so is your preference for knives. I have several of the "late great" tactical Schrade knives (I call it space debris), but I only got them as examples of what Schrade was trying to do in the last few years. For the most part, they are not as good for EDC, which you pointed out, as the old fashioned slipjoint patterns of Uncle Henry and Old Timer. I guess the younger market Schrade was trying to capture has a thing for "Technical" knives. I would hesitate to describe them as "tactical", because I cannot think of a tactic of knife use that cannot be accomplished with the more traditional patterns Schrade made for the first ninety years or so. Change for the sake of change? Well, in Schrade's case it didn't help sales much. You can buy one of those sixty dollar wonders for ten or less in most cases.

As another member said, if your knife was made recently, it could have either stainless or carbon steel blades. And Staglon is just a cream colored base delrin molded to look like stag, then an accent color added on top. Genuine sawcut delrin is a darker tan base molded to look like sawcut bone with a darker brown accent on top. Both are basically the same material with different colors and surface textures.

Buying another one or two is a good plan. Even one of each variation is quite expected. Just be sure that they are not made in the orient, as the company that bought the Schrade trademarks is having them made in China, and while I do not ( will not) own one, I understand they are of inferior quality.

Codger

 

[lrv]

Markus,
Again welcome. Please stick around we are a good group of knife knuts as you have probably read in the other threads.

Your single bladed 97OT with Stagalon handles was put together during the last year of Schrades production. I have one, and agree that it is a really knice knife.
There are a few of these floating around on ebay.
As for the steel. Its probably a stainless but you will need to test it.

TTYL
Larry

 

[Don Luis]

Willkommen,

Greetings from Mexico, your English is fine, I know a few words in German, like "noch ein bier bitte".

That is a nice knife, enjoy it.

Luis

 

[Storky]

Thanks to all of you for the great welcome and the informations.I really enjoy the knife

Great forum, great members :thumbup:

Markus