Stellite 6B and 6K

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I am being asked by a customer to find this material for his knife blanks. I finally found the source for this. They claim the 6K is "the best" material for knife blades. Said it will hold an edge better and longer. So far, heres the specs:

Resist Seizing and Galling

Stellite® 6B is resistant to the effects of seizing or galling. In many cases, its low coefficient of friction allows sliding contact with other metals without damage by metal pick-up.

Stellite® 6B has been used in equipment where no lubricants were used because of the nature of the product being handled. Sleeves made of Stellite® 6B move smoothly, with a minimum of resistance, even when operating in contact with other metal parts. They have been useful in inaccessible areas where efficient lubrication is impossible. Sleeves and bushings have resisted seizing even when lubricants were diluted by gasoline, cleaning fluids, and other liquids that wash out an oil film. They have operated at peak efficiency even when lubricants decomposed under heat or were destroyed by abrasive particles.

Resist Erosive Wear

Parts made of Stellite® 6B have had long service life, even under constant erosive conditions. This material has outstanding resistance to cavitation-erosion. Stellite® 6B used for steam turbine erosion shields has protected the blades of turbines for over 30 years of continuous service.

Good Impact and Thermal Shock Resistance

Stellite® 6B combines wear and corrosion resistance with good impact strength and resistance to thermal shock.

Resist Heat and Oxidation

High temperatures have little effect on the hardness, toughness, and dimensional stability of these alloys. They are highly resistant to atmospheric oxidation at ordinary temperatures, and have good resistance to oxidation at elevated temperatures.

Excellent Hot Hardness

Stellite® 6B retains high hardness, even at red heat. Once cooled back to room temperature, it recovers its full original hardness.

Corrosion Resistance

In addition to its wear-resistance, Stellite® 6B has good resistance to a variety of corrosive media. This combination of properties makes Stellite® 6B particularly useful in such applications as food handling machinery, chemical equipment, and others where both wear and corrosion resistance are necessary.

Available Forms

Stellite® 6B and Stellite 6K are available in the form of sheet, plate, and fabricated shapes. Stellite® 6B is also available as bar stock.



Heat Treatment

Wrought forms of Stellite® 6B and Stellite® 6K are supplied in the solution heat-treated condition unless otherwise specified. The standard heat treatment is at 2250°F (1232°C) followed by air cooling.

Chemical Breakdown:
Cobalt Balance
Nickel 3% max
Silicon 2% max
Iron 3% max
Manganese 2% max
Chromium 28%-32%
Molybdenum 1.5% max
Tungsten 3.5%-5.5%
Carbon 0.9%-1.4%

So far this is what I have. The company said that 6B has been used for a very long time for knife blades. They also said the 6K if far superior to the 6B. Just wondering if anyone has ever used this material. I'll update with new info as it comes in.
 
I have worked only with 6K but it is all that it is made up to be.

It was offered back in the 30's for about $30 per knife, a bit more than that today, well quite a bit more to be exact.

I have visited Stellite's facility in Belleville Ontario and am impressed by the type of work that they are doing for their customers; casting, rolling, shearing, powder metallurgy, hard facing and machining.

This is tough material to work with though, eats belts, drills and machines with solid carbide tools only, won't polish past a satin finish but takes a razor edge and holds it for a very long time.

George Tichbourne
 
Thanks George! It sounds like this is a great material for a working knife. Hope the cost doesn't kill it.
 
Stellite was developed near you in Kokomo! There was also a maker in Kokomo named George Kennedy who "back in the day" was labeled "King of Stellite".

We have a paring knife made of 6K by Mr. Kennedy, and it is an excellent little knife. It has excellent flexion without bending, and holds an excellent edge. My wife uses it daily for years and it's never been sharpened on more than a set of crock sticks.

I like it much more than Talonite.
 
Thanks! I actually talked to the company in Kokomo. Very informative. They sent me to Stellite in Canada. Glad to know what you use it for. May have to make some Chefs knife blanks.
 
I have many friends who work for Stellite (Haynes International actually) in Kokomo (about 5-7 miles from my home) and have made a few knives out of stellite, trust me when I say Mr Tichbourne is spot on on how hard it is to work. it is seriously killer on belts, and basically real rough all around to work, Carbide / Diamond cutters is the only thing that will work it anything less is a waste of good cutters. Used to be around here if you knew someone who worked there you caould ask em to bring you home some scrap to play with but now anyone caught doing that will get jail time for ripping off the company and national security risks since they make alloys for jet fighter engines whose recipe is a national secret. They make several alloys in Kokomo now, but I believe 6b and 6k are now made exclusivly in Canada. We used to use Stellite for Lathe Cutters and they seemed to do fine with a proper grind and left a good finish.
 
Haynes said it was made at Stellite in Canada now. I'll have to stop by and see ya next time I come down 31. You're only about 45 minutes from me!
 
Here is some more info sent to me. This amazes me. They said that you do not heat treat this. Its already hardened. This stuff is very expensive! For a .125"x1.5"x36" piece, it is $370. I ordered a small quantity just to try it out. I guess it would be reserved for "high end" blades!


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I have a small piece that Mr Harold "Kit" Carson handed to me in front of my forge and said "see if you can forge this"

I did

I still have not sharpened it for over 4 years of cutting dog treats in bite size pieces. :D
 
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