sterile ESEE's?

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zignal_zero

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is it just me, or would it be pretty cool if you could get sterile ESEE's? i mean - no coating and no mfg brandings on either the blade or the scales. am i the only one that thinks this would be pretty cool.

imagine an ESEE 6 clip point with a satin finish, some contoured polished black micarta scales, and absolutely NO markings. or would it be too difficult to keep the rust off 1095 w/o a coating or patina?

it would mean - the price of the uncoated blade, the price of the finishing, and the price of the custom scales, but man would you have sexy piece when it was completed :cool:
 
ZZ

I think you hit a major point in the second paragraph. It just seems a little silly to up an sell a completely untreated 1095 blade. From what I understand giving the blade either a polished or satin finish they require a LOT of finishing work. So you're going to seriously drive up the price. Not to mention you're paying this price for a finish that won't likely last. It will most likely rust or patina. Polished scales... polish looks GREAT. I mean stinking beautiful most of the time. But it also happens to be slick as glass. Basically what you are going to wind up with is a safe baby. ESEE is not in the business of producing such things. However, if you really want this (aside from perhaps the removal of the MFG's laser etchings) you can do it.

1) Strip the blades finish.
2) Blunt that sucker.
3) Buy some buffing pads and a few grades of buffing compound for your bench grinder.
4) Get to know your bench grinder, you two will be spending a TON of time together.
5) Buff your blade until you can't stand to look at it without sunglasses.
6) Sand the face of the scales smooth.
7) Take the scales to your friend Mr. Bench Grinder and let the two get VERRY Familiar.
8) Ogle your dead sexy new blade.
9) Pics or it didn't happen.

God bless,
Adam
 
I like the black powder coating. Functional and gives them a real working knife look to them.
 
jumpmonkey said:
ZZ

I think you hit a major point in the second paragraph. It just seems a little silly to up an sell a completely untreated 1095 blade. From what I understand giving the blade either a polished or satin finish they require a LOT of finishing work. So you're going to seriously drive up the price. Not to mention you're paying this price for a finish that won't likely last. It will most likely rust or patina. Polished scales... polish looks GREAT. I mean stinking beautiful most of the time. But it also happens to be slick as glass. Basically what you are going to wind up with is a safe baby. ESEE is not in the business of producing such things. However, if you really want this (aside from perhaps the removal of the MFG's laser etchings) you can do it.

1) Strip the blades finish.
2) Blunt that sucker.
3) Buy some buffing pads and a few grades of buffing compound for your bench grinder.
4) Get to know your bench grinder, you two will be spending a TON of time together.
5) Buff your blade until you can't stand to look at it without sunglasses.
6) Sand the face of the scales smooth.
7) Take the scales to your friend Mr. Bench Grinder and let the two get VERRY Familiar.
8) Ogle your dead sexy new blade.
9) Pics or it didn't happen.

God bless,
Adam
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yea, that's where i hit the glitch in the plan. i've done it, before, just not with an ESEE and not 1095. it was black coated stainless and i did it more out of need (the coating was wearing off). that's why i know that laser etching is pretty permanent :(

when i get my money straight, i might hit them up and see if they'll sell just a HT'd blade, then get some custom scales from Chax. not worried about the slickness. truth is - i think SHAPE makes a lot more difference than TEXTURE. i've literally had my 5 fly out of my hand, while chopping in the cold due to how square it is. not saying it's flaw, that's my EDC and i love it. just saying some nice palm swells, maybe even a wrap around with finger grooves would make it more grippy even if it was as smooth as the micarta on the Cold Steel Military Classic :D

i'll probably never get around to it :( but if i do, trust me, there definately be some pix.
 
huntmol said:
I like the black powder coating. Functional and gives them a real working knife look to them.
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i do, too, on the two i already have. i just want a beautiful knife that doesn't have a working look to it, also :) sort of something to carry when i'm not in the woods.
 
zignal_zero said:
i do, too, on the two i already have. i just want a beautiful knife that doesn't have a working look to it, also :) sort of something to carry when i'm not in the woods.
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I can understand that.
If I ever get a couple of extra izzys I would probably try to experiment with one and make it uniquely my own too.
 
jumpmonkey said:
ZZ

I think you hit a major point in the second paragraph. It just seems a little silly to up an sell a completely untreated 1095 blade. From what I understand giving the blade either a polished or satin finish they require a LOT of finishing work. So you're going to seriously drive up the price. Not to mention you're paying this price for a finish that won't likely last. It will most likely rust or patina. Polished scales... polish looks GREAT. I mean stinking beautiful most of the time. But it also happens to be slick as glass. Basically what you are going to wind up with is a safe baby. ESEE is not in the business of producing such things. However, if you really want this (aside from perhaps the removal of the MFG's laser etchings) you can do it.

1) Strip the blades finish.
2) Blunt that sucker.
3) Buy some buffing pads and a few grades of buffing compound for your bench grinder.
4) Get to know your bench grinder, you two will be spending a TON of time together.
5) Buff your blade until you can't stand to look at it without sunglasses.
6) Sand the face of the scales smooth.
7) Take the scales to your friend Mr. Bench Grinder and let the two get VERRY Familiar.
8) Ogle your dead sexy new blade.
9) Pics or it didn't happen.

God bless,
Adam
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what he said.
 
zignal_zero said:
not worried about the slickness. truth is - i think SHAPE makes a lot more difference than TEXTURE. i've literally had my 5 fly out of my hand, while chopping in the cold due to how square it is. not saying it's flaw, that's my EDC and i love it. just saying some nice palm swells, maybe even a wrap around with finger grooves would make it more grippy even if it was as smooth as the micarta on the Cold Steel Military Classic :D
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ZZ,

I have to say that you have a fair point right there. I still think some good texturing can help. Especially when you get the grip wet. But some proper contours, a swell at the butt end of the knife, you can go a long ways on some proper geometry.

God bless,
Adam
 
to tell the truth, this was a simple idea that got WAY carried away and morphed into an idea for a custom piece that would very likely be more trouble than it was worth.

what i was ORIGINALLY thinking, when i said "Sterile" was - imagine an ESEE with it's blade properly coated and sporting it's original stock scales, BUT absolutely no laser etching and no engraving on the scales. it would still have the green micarta, it would still have the black blade, it would just be unbranded. if a serial # was a must, that's fine, but NOTHINGELSE. am i the only one that thinks that would look A LOT cleaner?

Rock River Arms made a batch of 6 position M4 stocks, a while back, that they left their name off of. everybody loved 'em.

when i'm ready for my next ESEE. i'm going to see if they'll do one like that. same as all of 'em, just impossible for a NKP to identify mfg :)

eta - this all started festering in my head due to the fact that i REALLY want a 6 clip point but can't stand the logo on the blade :(
 
Fair enough bro. I guess they could do it, but then it kind of becomes an anonymous blade. I wouldn't be prone to sell my product (if I had one) with no markings. To be honest the ESEE logo on the blade itself really isn't sexy... but I don't see it often, it's either covered by a sheath or buried in whatever it is I'm cutting.

God bless,
Adam

PS: 'least it doesn't say Idaho Made.
 
I like the clean polished look, but not for a user. I'll let a patina happen, or force one, before I'd try to keep 1095 polished.
Just buy the knife you want, and make it from there. It's a good experience, especially making handle scales.
 
Bro,

My brain is slow, but I think there is a solution to your problem if you don't mind forking over a bit more dough. Jforbush does cerakote... and some other coating type I believe, and does a great job of it. I think his coats cover the laser etchings. Give him a holler, I bet he'd be willing to help (don't know what he charges.)

God bless,
Adam
 
Do the work yourself.
It is fun to get up close and personal with sandpaper, bench grinders, RIT dye and such things.
 
for a beauty piece, i think i'll just stick to my idea about a Bark River Smoke Jumper. it already has the look, i'm goin for.

but if ESEE would let a 6cp leave the house, unbranded, i'd be intrested. it doesn't seem like it would be a problem. hell, it seems like it would save 'em (or Rowen) a step in the process. ya know, make it just the same, just don't laser etch it. i could get over the name on the scales (i'm going to be mfg'n custom scales soon anyway), if i could get the a sterile blade.
 
When I was in law enforcement we made it a point to remove manufacture information from personal equipment that we carried in the field. If we had to use a knife in the line of duty we did not want the manufacture to come into play in court. Also I really enjoyed the personal touches like bake on finish and color combos.
 
rbmcneil said:
When I was in law enforcement we made it a point to remove manufacture information from personal equipment that we carried in the field. If we had to use a knife in the line of duty we did not want the manufacture to come into play in court. Also I really enjoyed the personal touches like bake on finish and color combos.
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WOW! that's really intresting. i've been a LEO, for quite a while, and never heard of that. however, the M4 i built for patrol use, has a stock that was sold (completely unmarked) by Rock River Arms. i wonder if that was their reasoning :confused:
 
I was on a cope team for the Commonwealth of Virginia working in section 8 housing projects in the early 90's and big students of Massad Ayoob. It was right after the Rodney King fubar and things were tense in thoose environments. We were not allowed to use Black Talon ammunition for the same legal BS...
 
rbmcneil said:
I was on a cope team for the Commonwealth of Virginia working in section 8 housing projects in the early 90's and big students of Massad Ayoob. It was right after the Rodney King fubar and things were tense in thoose environments. We were not allowed to use Black Talon ammunition for the same legal BS...
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sounds like the kind of place that'd keep ya busy :D

my (current) agency lets me carry whatever i want, within reason. it's nice, but i might be changing agencies soon, though, and doubt the new one is going to be cool with all the tools i'm used to :(

but as for my "sterile ESEE" idea - IF they did give the option to buy their knives, properly coated, but WITHOUT ANY laser etching, who all would buy one? i don't mean a naked blade, just unbranded.
 
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