stickgrappling - hard to pull off realtime?

[Stickgrappler]

Hello,

1) I went to a Dan I. seminar back in March '99. Anyway, he showed some Maphilindo silat. Back then I thought, my attributes suck and I would not be able to pull off some of the moves. He also showed some stick chokes and takedowns, which I thought were very cool.

2) Periodically the Dog Brothers site has a stickgrappling move involving puter kepala. I'm thinking, "yeah, right, when will I get the reference point to pull that off." Their version has the stick inserted between the arms for the levering.

3) I watched Matt Thornton's first series and on his Aliveness vid, he stressed that some of the drills we practice are dead, e.g., he snaked disarmed vs. #1 after an inside sweep/defelection. However, he says his partner was feeding him non-realistically as a #1 comes in with more power and speed and it would be hard to inside sweep it. This got me thinking of some the drills I know and do.

4) This past weekend, weather was decent so my partner and I worked on some basic disarms, mainly snake outdoors. We were working on snake vs. #3 with a low shield (or is it called wing?) and I went to snake his stickarm and I was worried about what he could do with his alive hand trying to make the drill more alive. I gave a backhand punyo and put punyo behind his neck to monitor him. POW! Like a flash of lightning, I thought, "Hey, I could do puter kepala here!" and proceeded again to try it, but instead of snaking, I controlled the wrist after the low wing/shield and inserted punyo behind neck. I could get puter kepala but I felt like I was muscling it more than I would if I did it empty-handed.

Anyway, just wanted to share something that I thought I would not ever get, and then one day, I got it. Anyone else with any stickgrappling moves you originally thought you could not pull off but then one day while training you could? I picked stickgrappling as an example because a) it's my favorite, although I'm only a beginner and b) some of the stuff looks like it will not be able to be pulled off in real life.

TIA.

Very best,

Hy

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"...grappling happens. It just does." - Top Dog

 

[Smoke]

You got me beat on the stick and grappling part. Although, I did try to sneak headbutts and hip shoves when I sparred, never did get the latter. I don't do much stick anymore (probably should), the grappling I do is for straight armbar type moves. Haven't tried the fang choke yet or the stick up the rectum escape.

I do recall in one German tournament, a fighter won by, let's call it a "row boat" choke. He got behind his opponent, took the stick with two hands, put it around the neck and cranked back like in rowing. Not pretty but it worked and improvisational.

 

[Stickgrappler]

Smoke,

That is an ugly and very effective choke. The opposite may well be if you got the guy mounted and just put the stick on his throat or face and just push down

A variation on your "row boat" choke, is to get the back and do a rear-naked with stick, ends up looking like Fig 4.

Hy

P.S. If I bring my stick to a fight with you, I think I would still lose, 'cos when I close to stickgrapple/grapple, you whip out your knife(s) and SURPRISE... LOL

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"...grappling happens. It just does." - Top Dog

 

[Smoke]

and I'll run behind Giuliani and take him hostage using the secret MICRA (Mobile Intensive Creative Rapid Assault)technique taught by Barry Yabnabwick and Billy Blanks.