Stiff fireing LCC D/A Question!

I am very happy with this knife.

However, it is VERY VEEEERRRY hard to fire one handed. Do they loosen up at all and any tips on use? I have fired it three times now with my VERY sore thumb (it is in agony from the effort
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Any help would be fantastic.

It is one tank of a knife!

W.A.

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Have you checked in the 'auto' Forum? I'm sure they could help.

If it was me I would, once the blade had been fired open, leave it open then hit the moveable parts with your favorite stuff though just a little and then mobilize the button a few minutes so you're not wearing the life of your spring.

Shawn
 
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Mine was stiff for all of about 3 cycles then it got better but would still catch and not quite open for about 4 or 5 more firings. Then presto the thing worked itself in and fires like a rocket. Now I don't know how long you have been playing with yours and if it is still giving you problems. If after reading this you are still having trouble then I would venture to say it might be something besides just the new stiffness of the knife. Post this or have Para move it to the auto forum and you will get some more feedback on this question.
As far as the sore thumb goes its the nature of the beast or in this case the bolster release my thumb was sore for days. I even thought of contacting a local hosp to see if there had been other cases of "LCC THUMB" reported cause I have a feeling this new ailment is nationwide.

Bob

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I think mine is more than a little stiff Strider. I have test fired it about 125 times now an the dealer fired it 75-80 times. He said it was a little stiff, but had no real problems with it. I guess he is more used to such knives than I am and I need to get my style up to scratch! Then Don responded and I think that some of them are V E R Y tight, mine must be one. DOH!!!

I will try the oil fix and see if that does the job.

W.A.

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You might be able to do a similar thing by holding the blade from opening (squeezing to keep it shut first with lotsa pressure then gradually less pressure..) and doing the same type of mobilization with the button gradually releasing pressure on the blade so that you 'break in' any metal parts that are touching. The main thing is not to tax the spring as you are doing the fix.

Best of luck and check with Automatic Forum or Microholics as I'm sure someone has addressed this before.

Shawn
 
Ladies and Gentlemen!

I would like to profoundly from the bottom of my heart thank all those who have helped me with this problem! I would like especially to thank Don, Strider and Emanym Ton.

After a rather unsuccessful attempt to loosen the knife up I tried this.

I held the bolster ‘open’ and began to flex the blade into the spring open and closed. Think of those hand strengtheners powered by springs that you can buy! After about 50 times at this, I noticed the bolster felt a little better.

So I closed the knife and tried again to fire it. No luck. I tried to push the area a bit nearer the CF part and hey presto with my index finger it fired! Ok so it was not my thumb, but I figured I am in so much pain with this, I cannot use full force upon it. So gritting my teeth I pushed as hard as I could and POW if fired! I tried it again POW it fired! COOL!!! It hurt like a mother you know what, but I think I am on the way forward here!

I will now give my thumb a few days to heal and do another 2-300 of those openings and closings to loosen things up a bit.

I just wanted to say, this place has some of the best people I know. It is an honour to have met some of you and consider myself very privileged and lucky to have found this hobby and this place. All the very best to my friends out there and all KnifeKnuts!

Salute!

W.A.


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We got some like this in my store, I am sending them back to be fixed, you shouldn't have to spend so much money and there be a problem, I think it was a bad batch. Is it a Ti-coated blade? The ones I saw were.

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Cheers!

W.A.

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general....i had the opportunity to handle the exact knife that is giving you trouble while i was at mike payne's house one night.... i fired the knife a few times before he shipped it to you....sure it was a bit stiff but it fired ok for me as well as mike as well as his wife....i can tell you that the closer you are able to keep your thumb near the carbon fiber (or micarta) the better the leverage will be.....also i have found out by trial and error that cleaning out the factory lube with a degreaser and using tuf glide worked wonders on mine...mine is now as slick as owl sh*t and is damn near perfect...i placed tuf glide on the pivot as well as all internal moving mechanisms as well as were there even might be a bearing surface and let it get worked in and let it "cure/penetrate" overnight and repeated that sequence for several days.....worked wonders...hope this helps.....feverdoc
 
Yes, I have a black bladed one that I almost had to use two hands to get it to fire... and I have VERY tough thumbs...it aint right. I have played with 5 of these so far and this one is the worst yet... got a stone wash one at the Vegas show that is near perfect.....these guys need to work on their quality control.....I am going to take it apart and screw with it....but if I wasnt a knifemaker I woulda sent it back for sure!!
 
I am sure it is something I am doing wrong, said as much. Mike has been very helpful as have the members of this group. Feaverdoc you will note at no point did I attempt to bring Mike into this, in fact a few days ago I posted a thanks on the GBU forum! I have got the knife fireing a bit now (auto forum post please look). I will try the several day soak with Tuf Glide test and wait till my thumb is 100% before making any further judgements.

Hell if you, Mike and his wife had no problems, then I am a dummy without the instructions for life!
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Don't worry! I will sort it out! I am sure the knife is ok from what yo and others have said, better a bit stiff than open into leg in pocket!

W.A.

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I have the opposit problem with my stonewashed DALCC! it has the dry firing problem and today even dry fried when tapping it agianst something hard! after over 2 months of this crap, today I adjusted the spring on it and for the last 6 hours the sucker has been qworking correcxtly with no dry fires at all. But I dont think my solution will last and I cant send it back because it is a auto knife. I just got un lucky with mine. But a $200.00 knife shouldnt leave the factory withoiut being checked out for problems,especially with such a new design.
 
Just to let you know, the knife IS getting a bit easyer to use. I am not sure if my teq is better or the Tuf Glide helped or the fact that my thumb is no longer as sore...probably all three!

As Mike suggested, my thumb is a bit on the chubby side
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so maybe it is just my thumb getting used to the new job it has to do! Yes this is a stiff model, but it does not worry me any more. In fact I find it reasuring more than anything else. I was always a bit worried that it would fire on me when in the pocket. Especially when they supply a pouch for carry... Talk about a confidence booster!
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One thing I have noticed is sometimes when it fails to fire, when I make sure the spring is still locked tight, I hear a 'click' as the spring locks into place. This suggests that the spring is sticking half open and thus the blade cannot fire. I will put some Teflon Grease in this area and hope this stops. It makes me think I am VERY close to the point of release, when it sticks. Or I am not quite using enough force in the right place! Again time and practice I am SURE will fix my stupidity! Hey it is my FIRST auto knife!

W.A.


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I carefully followed Dexter's regimen with tuf-glide and now both D/As fire perfectly. Being slightly stupid, I have always had trouble firing bolster and scale release autos. It took working quite a bit on my manual-of-arms before I was comfortable with the D/A LCC. Now it is like the proverbial poop egressing the goose
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