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stiffer after cleaning?
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Gary W. Graley
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Yep sounds like a washer problem, perhaps a washer is under the spacer? that would make things very tight/stiff. Great care is required to make sure the washers are positioned properly....
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I had a similar problem once. If you don't get the washers in just right you can damage one or both of them, resulting in a too tight action. Disassembling and reassembling properly does not fis this condition as the damage has already been done. CRK replaced the washer(s) for me and all has been well since.
I am now very careful about how I place the washers during reassembly.
Not saying that this is your problem, but it sounds like what happened to me.
I am now very careful about how I place the washers during reassembly.
Not saying that this is your problem, but it sounds like what happened to me.
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One of the washers is larger than the other. They must be in the proper place! Teacher, you can't get it too tight, I know from first hand experience. When you take the knife apart, it is very important to note the order of dissasembly so that it can be properly reassembled. Call CRK, they will be happy to help you.
As i understand it the small washer is on the clip side. I probably had more grease than needed, i cleaned it off then slightly re-greased it and now it's just slightly better, but nothing like I read on this forum...it looked dirty but it was smoother before cleaning. In some sense i think the washers "get used" to the motion.
Is the CR grease really the best thing to use on this knife?
Carlo
Is the CR grease really the best thing to use on this knife?
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I use RemOil, works really well with only a small film used on the proper parts(washers, blade pivot, and pivot area of blade)
It also does it's job while not attracting dirt, dust, lint, etc.
I carry my large plain, daily, clipped in my pocket......the RemOil has done the trick.
I use RemOil, works really well with only a small film used on the proper parts(washers, blade pivot, and pivot area of blade)
It also does it's job while not attracting dirt, dust, lint, etc.
I carry my large plain, daily, clipped in my pocket......the RemOil has done the trick.
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Carlo,
I disassembled the first Sebenza I had and had the same results. Very stiff!
I took it with me to the Blade Show in Atlanta last year and had one of the guys in the CRK booth show me how it's done and it was like a new knife! Very slick!
If you haven't already, do a search on this forum and find Anne's instructions on disassembly and reassembly. It works!
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I disassembled the first Sebenza I had and had the same results. Very stiff!
I took it with me to the Blade Show in Atlanta last year and had one of the guys in the CRK booth show me how it's done and it was like a new knife! Very slick!
If you haven't already, do a search on this forum and find Anne's instructions on disassembly and reassembly. It works!
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Yeah, I think the CR fluorinated grease is great for this knife.
If the washers are properly seated, and it is still stiff try putting a little grease on the ball bearing detent (which as you probably know already is on the end of the lock bar).
If you cleaned everything really well and then didn't grease the detent ball then you have bare metal riding on bare metal.
If you have already done this, then I apologize. Just another option.
Paul
Yeah, I think the CR fluorinated grease is great for this knife.
If the washers are properly seated, and it is still stiff try putting a little grease on the ball bearing detent (which as you probably know already is on the end of the lock bar).
If you cleaned everything really well and then didn't grease the detent ball then you have bare metal riding on bare metal.
If you have already done this, then I apologize. Just another option.
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I know a complete moron who had this problem. It turned out that he had reassembled the knife with one of the washers just slightly out of alignment.
Take it apart, clean and lube, and reassemble. Worked for me....er, ah, that is the moron.
Walt
Take it apart, clean and lube, and reassemble. Worked for me....er, ah, that is the moron.
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I took appart my Sebi for a clean and found I could not get the blade centred. I sat there for an hour loosening and tweaking and all the time thinking OMG OMG OMG!!!
Well I took it appart and noticed that one of the washers was SLIGHTLY out of alignment. This had a drastic effect on the alignment of the blade. How dumb am I? Glad I sorted that one out, WHEW!
How can CRK get the tolerences so low on a hand finished knife? They must have an army of nanites doing the assembly!
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Well I took it appart and noticed that one of the washers was SLIGHTLY out of alignment. This had a drastic effect on the alignment of the blade. How dumb am I? Glad I sorted that one out, WHEW!
How can CRK get the tolerences so low on a hand finished knife? They must have an army of nanites doing the assembly!
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Yeah, I know, everytime I get a "great idea" it involved extra machining steps and more production costs, but here goes:
A recess could be machined into each slab to accomodate the washer. Obviously, the recesses would exactly match the washers thereby eliminating any chance of putting the wrong washer on the wrong side but, more importantly, would serve as a guide to align the washers during reassembly.
Chris/Anne: If this works, I expect royalties.
A recess could be machined into each slab to accomodate the washer. Obviously, the recesses would exactly match the washers thereby eliminating any chance of putting the wrong washer on the wrong side but, more importantly, would serve as a guide to align the washers during reassembly.
Chris/Anne: If this works, I expect royalties.
This works for me...been doing it for years....when you get ready to reassemble
place the pivot screw through the hole..actually place them all and then lay your handledown on a flat surface with all the screw posts sticking up.....next place your pivot bushing and stop sleeve and back sleeve on the screw posts.....then take the washer..place it over the pivot bushing (after you have lightly lubed it) and use your allen key ( or something similar) to push down gently and guide the washer down on the bushing until it seats flush
then place your blade on to the pivot (in open position) seat it firmly using your fingers and you should have just enough of the pivot bushing sticking above the blade to seat your other washer.....stick your other handle slab on top of this assembly and insert the screws...snug them up, close the blade, check for snug again...cycle it a few times and VOILA!!! back in business...try it and see....there really is no mystery to it...take care all....
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place the pivot screw through the hole..actually place them all and then lay your handledown on a flat surface with all the screw posts sticking up.....next place your pivot bushing and stop sleeve and back sleeve on the screw posts.....then take the washer..place it over the pivot bushing (after you have lightly lubed it) and use your allen key ( or something similar) to push down gently and guide the washer down on the bushing until it seats flush
then place your blade on to the pivot (in open position) seat it firmly using your fingers and you should have just enough of the pivot bushing sticking above the blade to seat your other washer.....stick your other handle slab on top of this assembly and insert the screws...snug them up, close the blade, check for snug again...cycle it a few times and VOILA!!! back in business...try it and see....there really is no mystery to it...take care all....
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David Buhrer
Everything is smooth now. I had done it right
I think it's a question of just opening it a few hundred times....
I tried to reassamble it using CR instruction
found on the FAQ, ie first assemble the handle, then put in the blade. I could not slide in the screw part in the blade hole...unless I pushed down the locking slab. Is this normal? I guess it has to be....It's amazing how precise the whole design is.
Carlo
I think it's a question of just opening it a few hundred times....
I tried to reassamble it using CR instruction
found on the FAQ, ie first assemble the handle, then put in the blade. I could not slide in the screw part in the blade hole...unless I pushed down the locking slab. Is this normal? I guess it has to be....It's amazing how precise the whole design is.
Carlo
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Hi everyone. I just wandered in here (I'm usually in the Spyderco forum if anywhere -- they're all I can afford!) but I am nonetheless an admirer of Chris Reeve knives. The first time I ever saw them was at a gun show in south Florida, and they certainly make an impression. I see how in love you all are with your Sebenzas...it makes me want to be a part of it. Did you all have to wait months and months to get your orders filled, or are there retailers who stock them? I have an old catalog from Ironstone, which featured Sebenzas (with their appreciable pricetag) but they are no longer in business. When I can scrape together the money, I may buy myself a Sebenza, as it seems from all your comments and, well, gushing, that they are well worth having. Then I guess I'll have to come back here for remedial reassembly tips.
Cheers!