Stockman 301 ?ions

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peppercorn

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My first pocket knife was a Buck Stockman 301 which I purchased new in 1978. I was very proud of it and decided on this knife because my father had hunted with a large Buck fixed blade. I was also always impressed with the logo as it showed how a Buck knife could cut through steel.
This leads me to my questions.

Was the knife actually made by Buck or was it made by someone else? I ask because I read in the exchange where it was stated that a Stockman of that vintage was made by Camillus.

I've also always wondered if the logo was depicting an actual Buck toughness test where the knife was hammered through steel?

Thanks in advance.
 
Well, you got your ID information correct. Your 301 was made my Camillus under contract by Buck. The first Buck made black sawcut 301 was made in 1986. In 85/86 Buck took over production of 301,303,309 and 305s. The remainging 300s were still Camillus as they phased those models out over time. Along with the big four above, the introduction of the 312 and 314 in 1991 added to the Buck made 300 series offers.
Currently the greater portion of 300 series are made by Buck with a few models remaining Far East contracted. I understand those are phasing down as is possible.

The knife,bolt and hammer......I defer to a better historian. I always thought the image was one of truth......

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Pepper, Welcome . I'll try to deal w/ both your questions in reverse order . The emblem, hammer, knife, nail being driven thru it . Dates back to the 40's when H.H. Buck would actually demo that to potential distributors at hardware stores while on the road selling knives . I have pictures of him doing a bolt .
The 300 series and yours is the first model in that series were first manuf. by Schrade 1966-69 or 70 . Then in 71 the contract was awarded to Camillus . They held it until 1985 . Then in 1986 Buck took that series back and began making the knives in their plant . I'm not as knowledgeable on this series as some here . But this should hold you till they come along tomorrow . Hope this helps . DM
 
It is tomorrow. I am waiting for my big pot of chili to cool down, both internally and externally.....300Bucks
 
Wow, I had no idea about any of this ! Thanks so much for the information.

Also, I would love to see the actual photo of that demo!
 
pepper, The photo I obtain in literature while at Buck's plant in July, 2008 . It is dated March, 1947 and the caption states H.H. Buck --- . Then shows a hand holding a stacked lucite handle knife about the size of a 119 and its half way thru a large bolt w/ the hammer hitting it . By this date I think Al was gone and he may have done it first . Anyway, I stated it correct . I've had problems posting photos in this forum . Your welcome . DM
 
Pepper, Thats a nice looking Border Collie in action . Some of you guys here have the best looking dogs . Heck, I like this forum just for you guys dogs . HA-HA ! DM
 
Hi All,

Those of you out there with a copy of the book "The Story of Buck Knives" can see a photo of a young Chuck Buck cutting a bolt with a knife and hammer for a group of scouts, on page #26. On page #43 is a photo of Al Buck cutting a bolt at a trade show.
jb4570
 
David et al ,

Thanks again for all the great information! It is just great to get these answers after so many years.

Now I am wondering, why, did they not make these knives themselves?

Also, does anyone know what the largest fixed blade hunter was that Buck made. My Grandfather had it and as I recall it wasn't as pointy as my fathers much smaller Fixed blade. I haven't been able to find any pics of their 1970s era fixed blade knives.

David Martin,

Thanks for the complement on my dog. Her name is Pepper and she is a five year old Australian Shepherd. She is a working dog and has a definite Border Collie look.

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peppercorn said:
Also, does anyone know what the largest fixed blade hunter was that Buck made. My Grandfather had it and as I recall it wasn't as pointy as my fathers much smaller Fixed blade. I haven't been able to find any pics of their 1970s era fixed blade knives.
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Buck has made many large fixed blade knives. I'd say that if you are wondering about a less pointy large fixed blade could be a 124. The pointy large fixed blade could have been a 120 or 119.
124


120


119

jb4570
 
jb,

As I recall, it may have been similar to the 124 in your picture but with plain blade and black handle.

Thanks
 
Was there another, perhaps larger, fixed blade?
It may have a wider blade and be a bit longer. It seemed like the overall profile was one of a wider blade.
 
peppercorn said:
Was there another, perhaps larger, fixed blade?
It may have a wider blade and be a bit longer. It seemed like the overall profile was one of a wider blade.
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Yes peppercorn,

Buck did make a few very large fixed blades.

903 with a 124


903 & 909

jb4570
 
Thanks jb,
Is the Bowie the next step up in size from the 124, minus the 909?
 
peppercorn said:
Thanks jb,
Is the Bowie the next step up in size from the 124, minus the 909?
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Hi Peppercorn,

That pup of yours keeps catching my eye. She/he seems to be enjoying the water sports! very nice action photo.

Buck has made many different sized fixed blade knives. There are a few that are as wide as that 903 but, a little shorter.

The 905 Mountain Man Bowie is one


jb4570
 
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Thanks jb.
She is a water nut but she is a herder above all else. I had to wade out in the water to about chest deep and Then had my son throw a stick in my direction which is how I was able to get the shot at eye level.

The more I look at the 124 the more I think that it is the knife my Grandfather had.

Thanks so much for the help.
 
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