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I just had a conversation with a Scottish Commander stationed here temporarily at Wright-Patt. He was in the Faulklands and in talking to him about Gurkhas in general, he brought up the matter of how he still ties his shoes to this day the Brit military way and the why. Yup...Gurkhas sneaking up behind troops and feeling their laces before, let's see, how did he put it? Oh yeah...<hand across throat gesture mode>swoosh<hand across throat gesture mode off>...slitting their throats!

I always wondered if that was true...now I know! :eek:
 
So, you're saying that, if your laces don't feel right, you get your throat cut?
 
Nasty:
I as well have heard those type of "stories". I dont know if there true or not, as those that have told them to me, were told to them by the one it happened to. But in truth I dont think it matters. The though that they *might* be able to do that is enuf.

Also the Gurkas wern't in the Falklands.
 
I don't know about that story.

However, have seen some here when they come in for ops.

Haven't gotten the nerve up to talk with them yet. Keep looking to find a few off to the side. Would love to talk one of them into a trade for their insignia. It's crossed gurkas, of course.

Not even sure how good their english is, I never heard any of them speak it. Only their dialect.

My German SGT didn't understand why I was fascinated by them.

They still seem to be pretty studly.
 
A battallion of Gurkhas stationed in the UK at the time from the 7GR were in the Falkland Campaign. They were used primarily to clear the hights surrounding Port Stanley of any Argentine observation posts. I was talking to a retired color sargeant from the Black Watch about ten years ago and he said that the British military lace their boots straight across like the lacing on the khuk frog whereas the Argentines lace the boots with the cross pattern like US forces. He then said that the Gurkhas in the dead of night would check the boot lacings by touch to tell whether the men they found on the mountain observation posts were Brits or Argies. He also said the Argies slept three men to a shelter for body warmth. He then said the Gurkhas would cut the throats of the two men on the outward side of the three and leave the third to wake up to the scene of his two buddies right next to him dead. He said the purpose was to let the survivor get back to his own lines and tell the other Argie troops which scared the daylights out of them. He said it was done to spread fear and doubt amoung the Argies and to destroy their moral. I don't know about you but that would sure scare the s**t out of me. I told him that I didn't recall the Black Watch being in the Falklands campaign, only the Scots Guards and he said I was right but that he was there as an forward observer in a chopper recon team used to find and report where the Argie forward positions were. This guy was the real deal so I didn't question him any further.
 
Also in the Falklands War there were Gurkhas in 2 Para as well as the 7thGR who were part of the newly formed 5th Infantry Brigade.
 
The Gurkhas were the first ones to know about the surrender in the Falklands.

As for the boot thing, actually the story goes back to the western desert of WW2 if not further. In the desert the Arabs would creep up on sentrys, hand over the mouth, knife to throat, another feels the laces to see whether it was a German or a Brit, then whether they were friendly to whatever side it was they would either kill em or leave. The Gurkhas do a similar thing. The British army use whats called a 'single lace', that is the lace goes from the top on the outside, directly down to the bottom inside eyelet, then loops around the eyelets to form a ladder. The reason for this is that its easier to get a knife in and cut the lace in the case of a foot wound IIRC. There are similar stories, one we were told by a Greenjacket Captain took place when he was on exercise and the GDC (Gurkha Demo Coy) were the 'enemy', during the night they moved through their harbour position and put a spot of red paint on the toe of the boots of every man in the camp (including the sentry) and moved off, to symbolise how easily they could have been killed.

From conversations with a few of the Cadets at Sandhurst, the Gurkhas there don't speak much english, enough to get around, live comfortably in Britain and go to the Naffi, but because they live together its not really necessary and so they manage with Gurkali.
 
The many Gurkha's that I know all speak very good English, almost better than me infact!!

The Gurkha's are now required to speak English as well as Nepali (Gurkhali), which is a general language of Nepal. From conversations with my Gurkha friends, they tend not to speak much English to people they do not know very well as it takes them a while to accept you and get to know you and trust you. Once you are accepted as a friend however, they are a friend for life, in my experience.

Most of the bootlace stories do originate from WWII and there is usually no smoke without fire as far as I am concerned!!
 
The story went that the Scots Guards worked with the Gurkhas...he was talking about taking hills. He said that the Gurkhas would go in first, and then the Scots would essentially mop up. He also said that the Argentines were terrified of the Gurkas. This was a three minute conversation you have to understand...I'm sure he had more to say since, after all, he was there.
 
Originally posted by Kohei
The many Gurkha's that I know all speak very good English, almost better than me infact!!

The Gurkha's are now required to speak English as well as Nepali (Gurkhali), which is a general language of Nepal. From conversations with my Gurkha friends, they tend not to speak much English to people they do not know very well as it takes them a while to accept you and get to know you and trust you. Once you are accepted as a friend however, they are a friend for life, in my experience.

Most of the bootlace stories do originate from WWII and there is usually no smoke without fire as far as I am concerned!!

Yeah, that is the impression I got because one of the things these cadets said was that they didn't talk to the Gurkhas much and so really didn't hear them speak much English.

Nasty, IIRC the Scots Guards went for mount Tumbledown (a night attack with some very viscious fighting and CQB) and the 1/7 GR moved across to the north and then assaulted the Argentinians near the two sisters when day came. The Battle for tumbledown was rough, the Scots went in on the assault rather than mopping up, in that battle at least, though in the other hill scraps he may be right. If you speak to him again, please could you pass on my thanks, falklands vets deserve it but are now mostly forgotten sadly.
 
If you speak to him again, please could you pass on my thanks, falklands vets deserve it but are now mostly forgotten sadly.

I'll be proud to...we have the same problem in the US with Viet Nam vets...
 
Cheers Nasty, its rather sickening, I mean when the soldiers came home all bells and cheers, now 20 years later and people dont know it blooming well happened. Mind you, Nam vets didn't even get that (the bells)! Always reminds me of Kipling, it was true then and still is today, as beautifully demonstrated by the Iraq war:

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
 
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