Stranded camper saved from starvation

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/01/world/americas/canada-hiker-rescue/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


(CNN) -- If Marco Lavoie had not been rescued when he was, the Quebec man probably would have perished within 48 hours.

He was hypothermic, dehydrated and near starvation in the unforgiving cold of northwestern Quebec when police rescued him Wednesday.

Lavoie's survival might be called miraculous, as he had been in the wilderness for more than three months.

The 44-year-old is an experienced outdoorsman, but an encounter with a bear changed his luck, Quebec police said

At some point during a planned two-month canoe trek in the Lake Matagami area, a bear attacked Lavoie's campsite, eating his food and ruining his equipment, police spokeswoman Christine Coulombe said.

The bear did not injure Lavoie but left him without the tools or resources to survive. Police say they have yet to speak with Lavoie to get details.

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"In these parts, there's a subculture of people who go on these long trips into the middle of nowhere, but sometimes we forgot how dangerous it can be," Gerald Lemoine, mayor of a small town near Matagami, told the Montreal Gazette.

The rescued canoeist began his adventure July 16, Coulombe said. It wasn't until three months later, on October 21, that his family called authorities because too long had passed without Lavoie's return.

Police conducted searches for eight days, weather permitting, with no luck.

Rescuers in a helicopter finally spotted Lavoie on Wednesday, but they could not safely land at that spot, Coulombe said. So officers had to hike in to pick him up and carry him more than a mile to the chopper.

Lavoie's condition was such that he was barely able to speak and at first couldn't even drink water, the Gazette reported.

Had he spent another day or two in the elements, he would have starved to death, police spokesman Ronald McInnis said.

The man had lost half of his body weight, he said.

It was Lavoie's German shepherd who scared the bear away on the day of the attack, but the dog did not survive the ordeal, McInnis said.

"Up there, in the Canadian shield, there's little plant life to live off, so he would have been slowly, painfully dying when they found him. It's an amazing feat that he was able to keep himself alive this long with almost no equipment," survival instructor Caleb Musgrave told the Gazette.

"When you start to go hungry, you get mood swings, your mind breaks, and you cramp up all over your body. Eventually, your body will start cannibalizing itself, eating away at the fat in your organs and then in your muscles. It takes someone who won't give up in the face of that," he added.
 
That was almost tragic. Glad he made it and was rescued.

It reminds me of the mountain man Jim Bridger's friend Hugh Glass and the horrible thing he had to endure as well from a bear attack.
 
No kidding, to take it that close to the wire. As his whole story comes out, it will be interesting for sure. I wonder if he was able to find any food at all, or if he made it that long off of the scraps the bear left.
 
What that article does not state is that he claims to have EATEN his German Shepherd--just few days after the dog saved his ass

I have a German Shepherd and I would be HARD PRESSED to kill and eat him unless I was damn near Dead---and would never ever consider doing it just a few lousy days after the dog saved my life

Personally--I think this man is a piece of shit if in fact he did kill his dog just 2 days into this situation
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read information and sites below

A few days after the attack, Mr Lavoie used a rock to kill his German shepherd before eating the animal, a source close to the rescue told the Canadian news agency QMI.

http://www.livescience.com/40932-man-survives-by-eating-dog.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1163239/man-eats-pet-dog-to-survive-after-bear-attack

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-eats-dog-stay-alive-wilderness-article-1.1504703
 
You, have never been truly hungry.:thumbdn:
What that article does not state is that he claims to have EATEN his German Shepherd--just few days after the dog saved his ass

I have a German Shepherd and I would be HARD PRESSED to kill and eat him unless I was damn near Dead---and would never ever consider doing it just a few lousy days after the dog saved my life

Personally--I think this man is a piece of shit if in fact he did kill his dog just 2 days into this situation
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read information and sites below

A few days after the attack, Mr Lavoie used a rock to kill his German shepherd before eating the animal, a source close to the rescue told the Canadian news agency QMI.

http://www.livescience.com/40932-man-survives-by-eating-dog.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1163239/man-eats-pet-dog-to-survive-after-bear-attack

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-eats-dog-stay-alive-wilderness-article-1.1504703
 
A dog isn't going to save anyone's life stop the anthropomorphism please!

What that article does not state is that he claims to have EATEN his German Shepherd--just few days after the dog saved his ass

I have a German Shepherd and I would be HARD PRESSED to kill and eat him unless I was damn near Dead---and would never ever consider doing it just a few lousy days after the dog saved my life

Personally--I think this man is a piece of shit if in fact he did kill his dog just 2 days into this situation
-------
read information and sites below

A few days after the attack, Mr Lavoie used a rock to kill his German shepherd before eating the animal, a source close to the rescue told the Canadian news agency QMI.

http://www.livescience.com/40932-man-survives-by-eating-dog.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1163239/man-eats-pet-dog-to-survive-after-bear-attack

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-eats-dog-stay-alive-wilderness-article-1.1504703
 
Bullshit

I have fasted for up to 9 days

Killing my dog after 2 days would just never happen

Did you read those 3 Stories I posted???
Doubtful

The Dog saved his life and then he ate it 2 LOUSY days after the attack

The Dog was not injured from the bear attack

That Fat slob killed the dog after just 2 days

He is nothing but a waste to me
 
You, have never been truly hungry.:thumbdn:



Bullshit

I have fasted for up to 9 days

Killing my dog after 2 days would just never happen

Did you read those 3 Stories I posted???
Doubtful

The Dog saved his life and then he ate it 2 LOUSY days after the attack

The Dog was not injured from the bear attack

That Fat slob killed the dog after just 2 days

He is nothing but a waste to me
 
The dog was not doing him any good so he ate it. They said he was found within possible hours of death, had he not eaten the dog he would have died.

I cannot understand why people put a dog over a human in value, its down right sick and goes against common sense.
 
The dog was not doing him any good so he ate it. They said he was found within possible hours of death, had he not eaten the dog he would have died.

I cannot understand why people put a dog over a human in value, its down right sick and goes against common sense.

Not really, I value my dog over most people I meet. And, according to the story, the dog was able to accomplish what the man was either unable or unwilling to do - that is repel the bear. So, to me the dog had more value in this situation than the man.
 
The dog was not doing him any good so he ate it. They said he was found within possible hours of death, had he not eaten the dog he would have died.

I cannot understand why people put a dog over a human in value, its down right sick and goes against common sense.

In the middle of the woods in this extreme situation the dog would probably have died either way. Domesticated dogs aren't wolves. That being said;

I would of course save a person over my cat but I'm not sure I'd save myself over my cat. If given the choice and knowing if my death meant my cat lives, I'd probably opt to save her. I don't buy into the fact that animals don't have emotions, souls, or personalities. Are these things different in humans, sure/maybe but I believe it's sick to think that only a human life has value.
 
What no one seem to think of is how he feels now that he had to do that. I've had a few dogs in my life, one I loved more than anything but I wouldn't let it live if I had to die. That man is probably dying inside about doing it and once he is fully recovered the pain will most likely come to the surface. I know that 2 days doesn't seem long but when you're used to eating every few hours, two days is a lifetime plus he endured a traumatic event with the bear so his thinking was probably a bit off. Though I will say; a man who is experienced enough to take a two month trip into the bush, I would think would have been able to survive a little better than he seems to have. The bear may have tore up his camp and equipment but he should have had at least a knife on his person to help in his survival. Plus I would think that if you were planning a trip of such length that you would have learned what wild edibles there were in the area.

But in the end only he will be able to decide if what he did was justified.
 
An added dimension is the fact that the dog did not lose its ability to hunt with the loss of the equipment. The dog stood a better chance of catching food than the man and the caught animal could be taken away by the owner.

If the dog were dead or dying of injuries, I would eat it. But according to the stories, it was not injured and I would consider it an asset in gathering food until proven otherwise.
Given it is also an early warning system and deterrent to animals that might want to gnaw on me....I have to agree a few days into the event is too soon for me to consider killing such a huge asset(removing the emotional tie to put things rationally).

Bill
 
What no one seem to think of is how he feels now that he had to do that. I've had a few dogs in my life, one I loved more than anything but I wouldn't let it live if I had to die. That man is probably dying inside about doing it and once he is fully recovered the pain will most likely come to the surface. I know that 2 days doesn't seem long but when you're used to eating every few hours, two days is a lifetime plus he endured a traumatic event with the bear so his thinking was probably a bit off. Though I will say; a man who is experienced enough to take a two month trip into the bush, I would think would have been able to survive a little better than he seems to have. The bear may have tore up his camp and equipment but he should have had at least a knife on his person to help in his survival. Plus I would think that if you were planning a trip of such length that you would have learned what wild edibles there were in the area.

But in the end only he will be able to decide if what he did was justified.

There are lots of questions and possible speculation about how/why the situation turned out the way it did. On the surface, to me, it appears he was not the "experienced outdoorsman" as stated in the article and not prepared for this eventuality.

I live in bear country and spend as much time as possible in the bush. If I were planning to be remote for 3 months, I would FOR SURE have the resources necessary to deal with this situation.

IMO it sounds like he foolishly went on a walkabout (i.e. canoe trip) without considering or being prepared to deal with contingencies. I've had bears wander by camp looking for an easy meal. I haven't had to eat my dog.
 
When I was younger I had a dog that was my only friend pretty much he went everywhere with me. Now I have a family. I soon realized that a relationship with a dog is more in your head than an actual relationship. I still have friends that are in that same boat and refuse to advance their own lives because of a dog.

A dog does not know the difference in protecting you from a bear than it does attacking a 7 year old girl and ripping ounce of flesh from her legs and arms thinking that she is an attacker. Dogs are dumb.
 
I'm sure he didn't want to do it but knew eventually he had to, I love dogs and would never want to do that but if I was in that situation and hungry, eventually I would probably have to do the same. There's a family waiting and worrying for the man. You can't say the same for the dog. Not saying I dislike dogs because I love them, they truly do become part of the family but a dog is just that, a dog. Can't replace the man.
 
The dog was not doing him any good so he ate it. They said he was found within possible hours of death, had he not eaten the dog he would have died.

I cannot understand why people put a dog over a human in value, its down right sick and goes against common sense.

Bingo! Dogs become livestock when necessary. The dog or me, me wins. What a dumba@# story it would be if it read, man found dead, starved. Pet dog found alive, feeding on corpse. That's the way it would play in reverse. Even the dog knows that.
 
Human life vs any animal life. Human wins. If it were a horse, cow, or pig, you all would not have an issue. Most of you, if typical to most folks here, hunt or fish. What makes a majestic buck more important than your mutt? Your emotions, not the animal.

Some of you need to be in the woods with no food or resources and just your beloved dog, and maybe you'll figure it out.

I have had dogs my whole life, loved them all, but would kill any of them before I starve, or I let them starve.

Just remember, you don't see pet dogs or strays where a famine is.
 
I soon realized that a relationship with a dog is more in your head than an actual relationship.

If you are going to play that card you are forced to play it about the relationship between you and anything else too. I don't see as you can have a reasonable counter to that.

As an aside, it's also worth noting that people live in relationships that are contrived in their imaginations every day 'till the surprise divorce paper wops 'em up side the head out of the blue.
 
An added dimension is the fact that the dog did not lose its ability to hunt with the loss of the equipment. The dog stood a better chance of catching food than the man and the caught animal could be taken away by the owner.

If the dog were dead or dying of injuries, I would eat it. But according to the stories, it was not injured and I would consider it an asset in gathering food until proven otherwise.
Given it is also an early warning system and deterrent to animals that might want to gnaw on me....I have to agree a few days into the event is too soon for me to consider killing such a huge asset(removing the emotional tie to put things rationally).

Bill

Yeah that.
 
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