Strider knives lockup

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KyleMS11

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Im just wondering if the only change to the latest strider lock geometry is the lockface? I know i read the old lock face was more curved and the new is more straight. Is this the only difference? Also wondering if the strider pt lock faces are carbodized? Thanks for any info.
 
From what I understand the change was away from the scalloped lock face only and they do carbonize the face.
 
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I don't believe I've ever seen a Strider with a carbide lock face. It's only titanium meeting steel on the lockup of all the ones I've owned.
 
MatthewSB said:
That's probably from marker or whatever they paint on the blade tang to hide the lock stick that people whine about.
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I do believe you're right.

No Strider that I have seen has had a carbidized lockface, though all of the Mick Strider Customs I have seen do.
They have a coating of what probably is marker on them to prevent lock stick, but that's about it.

Screwdriver said:
My new SnG has what looks like a dark almost black coating on the lock face.
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If it were Carbidized it would look like a metallic, but slightly different from the Ti color, layer on the lockface. It doesn't usually look black.
 
The lockface on my SnG has the same color and texture as my small seb 21. Its also has the old lock up style (curved grind). The SMF I had for a day before passing it on also had the typical darkened Ti carbidized lockbars have.

More over my SnG is at least 5 years old and the lockbar hasn't moved a hair, if it weren't carbidized I'd have seen movement or wear by now.
 
EricV said:
The lockface on my SnG has the same color and texture as my small seb 21. Its also has the old lock up style (curved grind). The SMF I had for a day before passing it on also had the typical darkened Ti carbidized lockbars have.

More over my SnG is at least 5 years old and the lockbar hasn't moved a hair, if it weren't carbidized I'd have seen movement or wear by now.
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Sebenzas are not carbidized.
 
Tripton said:
Sebenzas are not carbidized.
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You are correct. They use a different method that they describe as a form of heat treatment. It changes the properties of the Ti to keep it from wearing the way it would normally or developing lock stick.

Not to mention that the Ummnum and the 25 now have a ceramic lock interface instead of having the Ti touch at all.
 
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EricV said:
The lockface on my SnG has the same color and texture as my small seb 21. Its also has the old lock up style (curved grind). The SMF I had for a day before passing it on also had the typical darkened Ti carbidized lockbars have.

More over my SnG is at least 5 years old and the lockbar hasn't moved a hair, if it weren't carbidized I'd have seen movement or wear by now.
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Refer to my above post for the first part.

Also, many farmelocks will wear at very different rates. Some of them will wear in very quickly, and the previous Strider tang cut that was curved encouraged that quite a lot, and made it much more of an issue when it did start to happen. A regular framelock, done perfectly, will wear so slowly with normal use that most people will never notice it. The issue is that it takes hours and hours of hand-tuning to get that kind of lock interface to happen. You will really only ever see that in custom knives. Even then, there is the chance that there will still be issues with the lock interface eventually, because you cannot 100% predict the chemical nature of all of the titanium or the steel that is used in the interface, or all of the forces applied to the knife over it's life.
Carbidizing a lockface slows wear immensely, but the reality is that not all knives are going to need it at all, and others will need it very quickly. That is why steel lockbar inserts are becoming as popular as they are. They are easier to adjust, and they don't show wear.
 
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