Strider PT pivot

KarlMaldensNose

KarlMaldensNose

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Good evening. I know the PT's pivot is smaller than the full-sized Striders' and that their spanner tools for break-down will not fit the PT pivot. So I was wondering if a standard slotted screwdriver would do the job, provided it is long enough to span the hole and slim enough to fit completely into the side notches? Any other options for PT pivots? I'd rather not learn by trial-and-error on this particular knife. Thanks for reading.

And for the record, I did try both a google and BF search on this topic.
 
A big flat-head should work fine... the PT CC I had was PERFECT though, so I never messed with it.
 
Thanks, arch. This one feels pretty good as is, but I'm a bit of a lube junkie... got all sorts of teflon, silicon, grease, oils, gels, emulsions, pastes, slurries that I'm dying to subject the little guy to. I'm on a quest to create the ultimate Franken-lube, and tough titties to any Striders or Sebenzas that get in my way.
 
The side of my Pt that I turn to adjust the pivot is the torx side. The slotted side is the female and the torx side is the male. I never needed a spanner tool just a torx bit.
 
touche eric... absolutely right... but a flathead would work if the female side was turning...

I still have the 1oz bottle of Miltec-1 I bought like 8 years ago... a little less than half full! I rarely find the need to lube... the stuff works for a looooong time!
 
With regards to the torx... my #7 just spins and #8 is too big. Tried hex and 1.5 spins while 2.0 is too big. Frustrated am very I... grrrr! I want to spill its guts and I want to spill them now:mad:!

Perhaps if I do a formal review of this knife, with pictures, and raise this issue therein, then more PT owners will take notice and chime in? I'll probably do that anyway (as soon as I get a camera) because I actually have many more issues and questions about the PT but don't want to clog up the boards with a new thread for every little ??? I have. But in the meantime, I would be very appreciative of any input regarding the breakdown of this knife (e.g. Is my torx set the only one that doesn't fit? What might one do in the absence of the proper sized torx? Does the PT pivot have loctite that needs to be defeated before breakdown like the SnG does?).

Based on what I've read about the Strider guys I am a little hesitant (read scared;)) to contact them for advice.

Salam.
 
I'm pretty sure Strider's use a dab of locktite on their pivots. One of their takedown tutorials showed a soldering iron used to warm the pivot to soften the locktite. Also make sure your screw driver fit perfect on the pivot...it doesn't take much effort to bugger up the nut. Here's some reading for you if you haven't seen the Strider Faq's already http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/UnofficialFAQ.shtml

Dave
 
My PT didn't have any lock tight on it, my other Striders did I just used my wife's hair drier. I would find something that I could use to just hold the slotted side so that it doesn't spin.
 
Never adjusted my PT, never had too. No loctite on any my of SMF's or SnG's and that includes my DDC custom. I just lube with Militec 1 and use.

Matador-
 
Karl.........

I had the same problem with my PTCC before I sold it. I'm guessing you got yours from Neil at the CKG show.

Anyway, here's the skinny ; If I remember correctly, my pivot screw was a T6 which was sloppy and promptly stripped. Tapped in a sharp cornered T7 and did the trick.

Don't know if the CC is the same as regular PT ; there was no need for spanner wrench as slotted side of pivot was knurled and was a press fit into G10. Mine had threadlocker. Use soldering tip to loosen. If I force turned the slotted pivot i would have gouged a larger hole in the G10

Had mine for over a year and sold it at the CKG show and bought one of Eric Elson's 3in G10/Ti folders
 
Wally,
Mine's a cc as well, so I will have the same issues as you did if I try to dismantle it. That is very disappointing as I really enjoy taking my knives apart for cleaning, lubing and just to see how they look and work. But I assume the knurling and press fit of the slot side pivot were necessary for design or construction purposes. I do love this knife, but its negatives are sure piling up.

With regards to the Elson 3-inch Ti-G10 folder, nice score! That was actually the only knife left on his table by the time I arrived at the show, and I really liked it and had enough money in my pocket for it. However, when I tried it out I found the action to be very poor, almost like there was sand in the pivot area. I do not doubt that his other knives are top line, and this one probably was just the test unit for people to pick up and flick around to get a feel for his stuff. Otherwise I really liked what it offered for the price.
 
Actually, I thought the design was an improvement, too bad Strider doesn't tell anyone and still has spanner grooves on the female pivot. I had heard of a couple of SNG's that had smooth grooveless pivots. Supposed to be a manufacturing/supply problem; I wonder.

It wasn't cross hatch knurling, but parallel ridges on pivot that was a tight press fit into G10. Impossible to turn with flat screwdriver after pivot screw removed. In desperation I tried tapping it out and out it came. Not a bad design, but I wonder how many G10 scales and/or pivots will be ruined. If they left off the spanner grooves, you could figure it out.

No excuse for sloppy Torx screw sockets. Strider says they outsource screws and pivot parts. Should pay more attention to purchasing. If you take the next size T driver and file/grind it flat and sharp, you will be able to salvage the screw. Make sure grooved side of pivot is resting on block of wood and start tapping driver into screw, the sharp edges are cutting a new socket. This has worked for myself and others.

In regards to my Elson, once bitten, twice shy. There were Two 3 inchers and one 4 incher on his table. The 3 in were buttery smooth with no play, while the larger one was awful. Don't know why a custom knife maker would put this on his table. Obvious why only knife left.

Guy standing behind me thought my PT CC was stunning and had attitude. I sold him the PT on the spot, picked the best of the 3 inchers and walked away happy. Got home,took it apart to see if Eric knew wat he was doing ,lubed it and still happy.
 
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