Strider SMF v. SMF GG

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What is the detriment (if any) to the overall strength by adding the gunner grip treatment to the SMF?
It looks as if it radiuses both the Ti and the G10 leaving them scary thin at the edges. I would suspect it to be a great detriment to the lock strength and the overall strength of the knife.

It sure does look apealing but not if the strength and durability is compromised.

Anyone know if strider is doing the GG themselves or are they having it farmed out to simonich or someone of the like.
 
i cant see how lock strength would be diminished.

i have an smf gg, and the scales are radiused, it is similar in profile to a concealed carry version. the lock is still plenty thick, as are the scales. the regular models scales are overly thick, so these look thin only by comparison.
 
That tells me nothing that I don't already know, I was looking for a first hand user perspective.

From the ones I've seen the lock bar is only 1/2 to maybe 3/4 as thick as the lock bars on say an HD- or CQC-12 emerson of a sebenza.

While in normal use it may not be any thing to worry about, strider knives are ment to used, abused, and say sir may I have some more, I would have to think that the GG treatment would affect overall strength and longevity.

From handleing a few the GG lockbars are only about 1/4-1/2 as thick as the lock bar on a regular SMF.

So the question remains, how much strength is lost due to the GG treatment?
 
I don't have first hand experience, but unless someone has compared the gg to the regular folder up to failure, I doubt they would have much more input than someone who has knowledge on framelocks in general (not saying I know more than others on this topic).

My understanding is that the area that is most likely to fail on a framelock is going to be the cut out on the lockbar. As far as I know, the cut out is the same. If the G-10 is thinner, there may be some strength loss on that side. And although it will be weaker, I've never read of G-10 failing on cheaper production folders,let alone a Strider.

Overall, if there's less G-10, there will be less strength, but it doesn't seem like it would matter on a practical level. It would seem like the folder would more likely fail at the pivot, the cut out or from the lockbar face slipping off of the tang on the blade. There might be a chance that the thinner g-10 and frame might lose rigidity and allow a greater chance for twisting movements, thereby increasing the chance of the lockbar slipping off of the tang.

BTW, from what I've seen on Emerson framelocks, the cut out is significantly thinner than on Striders.
 
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