strider sng

[sbl212]

we all know the strider sng great knife... but pretty expensive for most people. but there are striders made by buck... much cheaper... but it it as good as the original strider sng? what are the difference if there is any? if not why are they so much cheaper?

 

[T.K.C.]

I personally do not think that the Buck/Striders are as good as Strider. Strider is a better quality knife, in my opinion. Buck/Striders are made by Buck, NOT Strider.

 

[JPD1998]

From an ergonomic point of view they are similar. The quality of the blade ( BOS ATS 34 version ) is very capable. The thickness of the liner is a bit "lacking" but also capable, I carry mine all the time. Would I buy another Buck if I lost mine? Yes if I could find one.
Heres a pic of my Buck

Here's two pics of my SnG and my Buck.

 

[Lock1454]

What's with the upper swedge there? Looks almost like a nail file

 

[samhain73]

Its so if you miss the thumb hole, you'll still get the blade open. I like the Bucks, but they really dropped the ball in the liner thickness IMHO. The thinnest liner I've ever had, would fail a light spine whack everytime. Great otherwise though! SnG is cool, but way overpriced for a semi midtech.

 

[p_mcmanis]

we all know the strider sng great knife... but pretty expensive for most people. but there are striders made by buck... much cheaper... but it it as good as the original strider sng? what are the difference if there is any? if not why are they so much cheaper?

I think a better question would be "the buck has the foundation to be a good knife, how does it compare to other knives in that price range?"

SNGs cost 400 dollars for base models, they dont sell knives at that price by being the same quality (or even close to the same quality) as a <$200 knife

 

[Toyz]

The upper swedge is stippled so you can grab it with a finger on each side and deploy the blade. As you can see in the pictures there is quite a bit of blade real estate that sticks up over the scales.

I have the original Buck Tarani Strider collaboration and an SnG - and there is quite a bit of difference in the knives. Shape and ergos are very close.

Buck: G10 scales, stainless liners, stainless liner lock (thin), blade steel varies (ATS 34 seems to be the common steel), stop pin is not press fit, blade was not ans is still not centered, heavy knife (heavier than the SnG)

Strider: G10 and titanium, frame lock (thick), heavy duty bull pivot, S30V blade steel, titanium pocket clip, stop pin press fit, SOLID lock up, better fit and finish

The Buck is a capable knife if you use it with some degree of normalcy. The Strider begs to be abused. I am scared to do some of the things to my Buck that I do to my Strider.

There was a video or two on UTube about the Buck Strider failing the spine whack test also - you may want to watch those if they are still out there.

 

[SIFU1A]

comparing the strider & the buck/strider is like comparing apples and avocados, 2 very different things, the bucks are at best similar in design, the steel, locks and F&F is a lot better on the SKI, as well it should be on a knife 3X as much.

the early buck/striders like the 880 arent even similar in design to anything made by SKI, i think they are a better knife than the late model ones though, they have a really thick almost frame lock liner lock and had better steel in 'em and are i suppose supposed to mimic the AR or GB but while they are a big thick bulky knife more at home in a sheath vs a pocket(like a GB or AR) they look nothing at all like a AR or GB.

 

[Lenny_Goofoff]

I just cant open SNG with thumbstud. plus it snags on pants
thumbstud on Buck is much better!
Send Buck to framelock conversion and it will be still cheaper than Strider (if you can live with halfserreted blade).

 

[tirod3]

The Strider opening hole is for that - the large pin is a blade stop, not a thumbstud, and wasn't intended to be used that way. It does become obvious it won't work.

I bought a Buck Tarani in 420 and wasn't pleased - the hollow ground blade, serrations, and stippling hurt the cutting performance. 420 and rivited FRN grips makes it a $30 knife, not $65.

Samhain's complaint about the thin liner not working proved true for me, too, as even the replacement knife from Idaho still won't stay locked up - I can wiggle it to fail in use. I can't get my SnG to do that, ever.

Lots of owners of the ATS34/G10 knives seem to have good ones, but the 420/FRN is not worth it - a pale copy in comparison to S30V and Ti with a beefy framelock.

You do pay for what you get - and high end materials deliver high end performance.

 

[SIFU1A]

I just cant open SNG with thumbstud. plus it snags on pants
thumbstud on Buck is much better!
Send Buck to framelock conversion and it will be still cheaper than Strider (if you can live with halfserreted blade).

tirod is correct, the hole is for opening the thing and the studs are stops. i have also heard a lot of the bucks have lock probs FWIW.

i can think of a lot of knives i would do frame lock conversions on and a buck/strider is not on the list lol, i would much rather have a SnG vs a buck/strider with a FL mod, i would be hesitant to put a lotta $$ into a buck strider they just arent that great imho to warrant that kinda investment.

 

[tirod3]

Send Buck to framelock conversion and it will be still cheaper than Strider (if you can live with halfserreted blade).

Actually, I think you'd be better off with a Buck Mayo TNT. It's made that way from the beginning.

What the real point the OP seems to be making is that a cheap copy that looks identical can be just as good. The answer is No, it won't be, because the materials are a huge part of what makes a knife what it is. FRN grips with stainless liners aren't G10 and Titanium. A thin, short, stainless lock isn't a thick, long, titanium lock. A 420 or even ATS34 blade, hollow ground, isn't a S30V flatground blade, even heat treated by the same supervision.

A Ford Fiesta with fiberglass Rolls Royce grille isn't a Rolls Royce. It's not even a Lincoln Town Car. Cheap materials cannot equal and will not perform the same as better ones.

That's what higher priced knives are about - not the exclusive looks, close tolerance fit, and detailed finish, but also superior materials selected to work together which actually provide superior performance.

You can't buy quality cheap, you can only buy looks - and they fade away with time. Cheap look alike knives sell, but are a flag to question the motives of the buyer: Why does somebody buy something that only looks the same, but can't do as well? Who's really being deceived?

If we picked spouses, cars, and politicians with more care, maybe we'd be better off.

 

[p_mcmanis]

Why does somebody buy something that only looks the same, but can't do as well? Who's really being deceived?

Every single person who bought a chrysler 300?

no but you make good points. I would disagree that you cant buy quality cheap; there are quality knives that arent that expensive. They dont have the same level of quality obviously, but they will do in a pinch or if you are in a posistion where you may have to sacrifice your knife or if you just dont feel comfortable taking a high cost knife to a certain place.