Strider versus Buck/Strider

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Hello.
I have the Buck/Strider SBTG(model 882) and the thing is built like a tank!
It has me thinking of the Strider SNG, because of the frame-lock(yeah, I know they're liars, but I'm caring about the knife:)).
So, the question is, other than lock-up, which should be better on the SNG due to the frame-lock...
How do they compare for all around TOUGHNESS???
I mean, the 882 has .125" thick G-10 scales PLUS the 0.050" thick steel liner, whereas the SNG has just the G-10 on the one side. This seems like it would have a bit less strength for prying(no snide comments; remember, it's a sharpened pry-bar:D), and I'd read that at times knives with the one side being just G-10 develop a tad of loosness(don't know for sure though, which is why I'm asking).
ALSO, the blade stop pins rest nicely against the liners on the 882; is the G-10 side of the SNG likely to give a bit of play over time due to the stop pin "eroding" it over time?
So, what's the low-down? Should I stick with the 882, or save up for the SNG?
 
If you're happy with the Buck then that's all that matters. The "real" Strider costs 4 times more so I don't see the point of getting that unless you're unhappy with the Buck. I was looking through the Strider archives and found this post regarding the Buck

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The design is totally ours. Buck had the job of saying..."we can't do that"..."or that"..."or that"...

We gave in on a few small items. For instance, we wanted the belt clip to be fastened to the liners. Though I must admit, the inserts are strong as ****. I've bent several clips and have yet to pull out the inserts. We also wanted the edges of the G10 to be rounded. I'm not sure what happened there. But its no big deal. Everyone has pretty much figured out how to do it themselves. We kinda like people putting their own love into their knives anyway.

The tip was a hard one for Buck to achieve. So there were a few issues, bit we are very happy with their work.

Thanks

SK
 
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mongomondo said:
If you're happy with the Buck then that's all that matters. SK
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I'm certainly very happy with the Buck(I already did the extra finishing myself:)), but it would be cool to get basically the same thing with a frame-lock.
Although all this MAY just be my OCD trying to get me to spend money I don't have on things I don't really need!:D
 
I have an SmF and the big buck/strider folder. The blade steel will be different. The ergos on the Strider are better. The lock up is a little more secure. The pivot is a bit more heavy duty on the Strider. Its much lighter. I paid $80 for my buck. $500 for the Strider.

The Buck is like a Toyota Truck. The Strider is like a Hummer H1. Both can go offroad and do 90% of the same things.
 
A Strider is MUCH better in my opinion, than the Buck/Strider. The Strider feels better in the hand, and feels like much higher quality, at least to me.
 
T.K.C. said:
A Strider is MUCH better in my opinion, than the Buck/Strider. The Strider feels better in the hand, and feels like much higher quality, at least to me.
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+1.... whether that justifies the price difference is a personal thing, to me it does.
 
T.K.C. said:
A Strider is MUCH better in my opinion, than the Buck/Strider. The Strider feels better in the hand, and feels like much higher quality, at least to me.
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Any issues with the G-10 only side?
 
INFI Kid said:
G10 is very very strong. You would have to be actually trying to damage it to break it. If you do manage to strider will fix free of charge.
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That's good to hear, about the warranty.:)
I doubt I'd ever actually BREAK the G-10 side; I'm more concerned about eventual blade-play from it wearing down a bit.
I don't know if that actually happens much with that sort of construction, as my Civilian is the only knife I own with a G-10 only side, and it CERTAINLY doesn't get too much hard use(cuts rope great, but that's about as utility-use as I'd get with it).
 
I haven't heard of any problems witht he G10 wearing down. It would seem that would be very unlikely. Like I said if it does Strider will make it right on their dime.


stabman said:
That's good to hear, about the warranty.:)
I doubt I'd ever actually BREAK the G-10 side; I'm more concerned about eventual blade-play from it wearing down a bit.
I don't know if that actually happens much with that sort of construction, as my Civilian is the only knife I own with a G-10 only side, and it CERTAINLY doesn't get too much hard use(cuts rope great, but that's about as utility-use as I'd get with it).
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INFI Kid said:
I haven't heard of any problems witht he G10 wearing down. It would seem that would be very unlikely. Like I said if it does Strider will make it right on their dime.
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Guess I'll have to start saving(or get another credit card...:D).
 
I have both an SnG and the Buck.

I got the Buck first and liked it so much that I bought the Strider about a year later.

Everyone pretty much summed it up...TKC is correct the SnG is built better but feels lighter and more compact.

The blade on my SnG is also thinner than the Buck's blade.

When I decided to get an SnG the one thing that caused me to hesitate was the SnG's blade finish. But I was lucky to find a s stonewashed version.

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If I recall , the Buck/Strider collab is no longer ongoing.... which was due to Buck making a cheaper version of the SBT that wasn't a collab.... so a knockoff of the collab.
 
Every buck linerlock I've seen a picture of has the liner all the way over... like it shouldn't be. I even saw a picture of the strider/buck with the same problem and the caption was about how great the lock was.

so: you guys who have one, how's the liner lock doing?
 
I took the Buck/Strider out for a little adventure. It served as my "sidearm" while out at Gunnery (I'm a tank commander/soldier). Had a very bad morning and the knife saved me a headache and hassle. A 2 1/2 ton mine plow tore through it's lifting strap. We were trying to re-lace the plow's lifting strap but couldn't because of the knot on the strap's clevace. Minced a 1 3/4 nylon knot (that at one time was supporting and lifting 2 1/2 tons). Cut through the knot like butter.

I don't care how great a Strider is... This is a knife that walks and talks! Did the job and saved my ass. Took the abuse like a champ.

Since it was only $50 I didn't mind pulling it out and potentially destroying the blade. At $400 I would be thinking twice. Use and abuse, sharpen, wear out and buy 8 Bucks for 1 Strider. You're crazy to buy the real deal - or you have money to throw away.

Gimme a Buck any day. NO SERATION!!
 
sng feels thinner in your pocket, go for it! you can find used one at good price, just check Exchange often
 
DRider said:
Every buck linerlock I've seen a picture of has the liner all the way over... like it shouldn't be. I even saw a picture of the strider/buck with the same problem and the caption was about how great the lock was.

so: you guys who have one, how's the liner lock doing?
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I have not had any issues with the liner lock.

The lock on my Buck catches closer to the left side of center ( closer to the lock-side). It will not fail a "whack" to the spine of the blade, vibration doesn't cause the lock to slip.

I will admit , the liner is thinner than I like and if this knife had a frame-lock style liner it would have been a home run. But I'm sure the liner is adequately hardened and seems to do the job.

I have two minor complaints.... the ball detent is not as strong as I'd like, but not week enough to cause the blade to open in my pocket, and the blade was a little off-center when I got the knife. I was able to adjust that.
 
I'm the same as jpd1998 - I bought the Tarani, and then the SnG. There are many differences, the ergonomics are similar, the performance worlds apart.

The hollow ground Buck drags through a cut - the flat ground SnG slices. The Buck is noticeably thicker in jeans pockets, and the checkering on the FRN handles sharp as a rasp. The SnG is grippy and user friendly. The linerlock on the Buck would fail with hand pressure or light bumping on a cushioned surface - and that was the Warranty replacement straight from Idaho. The SnG has never unlocked (and it hasn't gotten much lighter after 18 months. I've gotten used to it.)

I posted a year ago I felt the Buck, particularly the Tarani in 420 and FRN, was about the closest thing to a cheap chinese ripoff I'd seen. Still think so. That doesn't mean the G10/ATS34 versions are, and from what I've seen, they perform well, and deliver value for the money.

But they aren't a ti framelock with S30V blade, and that's the game I got into.
 
pauldurivage said:
I took the Buck/Strider out for a little adventure. It served as my "sidearm" while out at Gunnery (I'm a tank commander/soldier). Had a very bad morning and the knife saved me a headache and hassle. A 2 1/2 ton mine plow tore through it's lifting strap. We were trying to re-lace the plow's lifting strap but couldn't because of the knot on the strap's clevace. Minced a 1 3/4 nylon knot (that at one time was supporting and lifting 2 1/2 tons). Cut through the knot like butter.

I don't care how great a Strider is... This is a knife that walks and talks! Did the job and saved my ass. Took the abuse like a champ.

Since it was only $50 I didn't mind pulling it out and potentially destroying the blade. At $400 I would be thinking twice. Use and abuse, sharpen, wear out and buy 8 Bucks for 1 Strider. You're crazy to buy the real deal - or you have money to throw away.

Gimme a Buck any day. NO SERATION!!
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You don't have to think twice. If you destroy the blade they will replace it free of charge. Hell they would probably drop everything to fix a knife that was tore up by a soldier in the field.
 
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