I have a question on leather stroping, currently using an edgePro Apex I have been able to get my knife edges close to where I want them. However, when I strop my blades using either a leather belt or a large rectanglar piece of leather glued to a piece of wood they seem not as sharp as when I got done with the blade after a ceramic rod. I confirmed this by how easy the blade shaves hair on my arm after a couple of light passes on the ceramic rod but will not shave after stroping. My edge angle is 15deg. and I have tried stroping from 15 to 0 and all seems to hurt rather then help the edge. My leather is not charged with any rouge at present.