STT Credit Card Knife

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fracmeister

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I wonder if anyone has a report on these (link here) and if they carry one. I expect they would go through airport security. That of course would be illegal and no one should do it. But are they good quality? Sharpen easily? Any comments from actual users? I see they are no longer available from TAD.... anyone else carry them?
 
I've had a real change of heart on these knives. When they first came out I thought it was a great idea; since most people seldom forget their wallets (driver's license, money, ID, credit cards) a knife made solely for a wallet seemed like a good bet. It would even be a fresh edge if your EDC got dull.

Since 9/11 and the metal detectors and 'box cutter' hysteria, a knife designed specifically to be hidden or disguised seems like a profoundly terrible idea.

Most of us never forget our EDC. Many carry a second knife. People may overlook a traditional knife, but a wallet knife suddenly appears creepy.

I think a neck knife is actually a better idea.
 
Airport metal detectors will detect them. Wheter or not you can convince the security guard that your credit cards set it off is another story. Also not sure if the person running the X-ray would see it as a threat or not. Ti does set off the metal detector, several knife makers (carrying sample bars not knives) have attested to this fact.
 
I like credit card knives BECAUSE of all the metal detectors.See my wallet sets of the wand,I open wallet show them my little fire dept.wallet badge,and walk on in,they never even think to look further.:D
 
Originally posted by bfm
Ti does set off the metal detector, several knife makers (carrying sample bars not knives) have attested to this fact.
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Actually, this depends. I carried one slab of my Sebenza (packed the blade and other half) in my pocket and sailed right through the metal detectors. I am going to test both sides. But if half a sebenza worth of Ti goes through, one of those credit card deals probably would (not going to test that one though!)
 
The detectors have different settings. What may work one day, may not work the next day. I wouldn't recommend trying it. Carry a few stout pens instead, or a PDA with a nice metal stylus.


Blades
 
When I used to serve on jury duty in NYC, as I went through the metal detector, the officer at the table went through my wallet -- item by item.

If you want to find out how thorough the airport screening is on any given day, don't complain when they send you to an unexpected and legally intensive destination.

Would you really carry a credit card knife like that on a regular basis as a useful tool? I've carried and used my Spydercard very successfully, but that's a real, if strange-looking, knife.
 
I have a Mission Titanium knife that is totally non detectable by a Magnetic detector, so I thought I would test it with my metal detector and it goes off everytime.
 
I would no try to carry it onto a plane or any courthouse etc.I'm talking ballgames,concerts,strip clubs,places with rent-a-cops,where you get a chance to put it in your car if found.:)
 
I have carried a Steel JSP CC knife in my wallet for a couple of years now and really am in love with the concept.

At Blade I picked up a Ti CC knife by Knifemaker Neil Blackwood, awesome design!! He should name it the "Ti Wallet Cleaver".

Titanium is non-magnetic. Titanium is picked up by Metal Detectors and the newest Airport Technology, "Mass Detectors".

Let me be very clear. I carry a CC knife in my wallet everywhere I am <U>legally allowed</U>. For those places that knife carry is restricted, I carry a nice steel pen to do my crossword puzzles. I also wear a "Rigger's Belt" that'll make a handy "Mace" and need be, I'll take off my boots and beat the livin crap outta someone. Hell, I'm not above kicking an arm off the plane's seat (club) and using the floatation cushion as a shield.

Nothing tricky, just preplanning with everyday items.
 
I wear a JSP V-Gar system and carry a Sebenza on any normal day.

That said, I live in DC. I have friends who work or intern in places that will be wanding me when I walk in. I've come to the conclusion that it's better to go out and feed a parking meter every couple of hours and thus have a place to keep my stuff. You're damn right I'm gonna be leaving those two toys in my truck if I'm picking someone up in a federal building.

Legal is more important than it was. The poor bastards at the metal detectors are probably sweating bullets as it is, given that they're liable to be the first ones to get killed if, god forbid, crazy people do come in looking to do people harm.

I carry a JSP Bandando and a pocket full of loose change, too. I have a friend who carries a roll of quarters in his pocket. He tells anyone who has cause to ask that they're for parking meters. You don't have to be able to slit someone from neck to nuts to have an edge defending yourself.
 
As an unskilled user, I like it just fine. It doesn't take a lot of training to smack someone upside the face with a tube sock full of nickels, which is a rough comparison to the bandando as I use it (coin purse for parking meters).

When I have some training and some practice, which should be pretty soon on both counts, I'll be able to discuss both the Bandando and the V-Gar more intelligently. As it is, you don't need to be a skilled martial artist to get why they're both such cool ideas.
 
Originally posted by AlecWire
(snip) I have a friend who carries a roll of quarters in his pocket. He tells anyone who has cause to ask that they're for parking meters. (snip)
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ANy decent club bouncer won't fall for the "parking meters" line for such a roll... My guess is tht few pros woul either. My only chance to hang with a serious bodyguard had a guy try to come through the metal detectors with the roll of quarters. He saw the guy put them in the little xray, calmly went over, picked them up and dropped a 20$ bill in their place. The guy didn't say a word.

BTW, that guy carried shockingly little hardware. One knife, one gun, a cellphone --at least that's all I ever saw!
 
That's true, but I don't bring weapons to clubs, at all - at least, I haven't been to a club since I've had either the V-Gar or the Bandando. Likely I'd leave the V-Gar at home and take the Bandando.

Before, my EDC was a Sebenza, nothing else. I left that at home when I went to clubs, and I felt pretty naked. Still, the reality is that most of the clubs I go to in DC are pretty upscale, and problems at these places are rare enough that I trust in the bouncers (most of whom I'm on at least a first-name basis with, some of whom I know from outside of the club) to do their jobs and deal with the problem. There are clubs in DC, mostly Go-Go music clubs, that I just don't go to due to regular violence.

My point wasn't that I carry weapons around places I shouldn't, and if it was taken that way I do apologize for the confusion. I meant that I try to carry something wherever I can, and the Bandando is an illustration.
 
One of the reasons I decided not to get something for my wallet is because I might forget that it's there. I wouldn't try and take it anywhere I shouldn't, but when you don't physically pick it up and take it with you every day (like your EDC), you may forget you have it and attempt to go somewhere that would take offense to it's presence. I carry a razor blade in my wallet--don't ask me why, I just always have--and I always forget it's there. Prior to 9/11, I used to put a small blade in my wallet and put it in the basket when moving through the metal detector, but some airports put the basket through the x-ray machine (the airport in Las Vegas did this to me a couple years ago) so depending upon the shape of your blade, someone might notice it (heavy emphasis on might). Then again, my friend got his razor blade through the detector (he forgot to take it out) and his brother had bullets in his bag that went through the x-ray machine and neither of them were stopped (this was post-9/11). Just as a note...his brother's wife packed the carry-on and it was his range bag and it had bullets at the bottom of it.

-Z
 
<rant>One of the many (and admittedly smaller) post 9/11 tragedies is the deterioration in quality of analysis by those we encounter at the airport security. It was never good of course, but before it was almost absent. We all know that an LEO who pulls you over does his own mental profiling. ("Long hair, tattos, lots of piercings--- maybe I ought to check this guy pretty thoroughly" "Businessman in a suit-- another traffic ticket") Right or wrong, it happens. The actual thought process varies and is occassionally pernicious. But the airport screeners (many of whom were apparently selected from the pool unable to hold down that job at K-Mart) make no such distinctions. "8 year old child with a 'Sponge Bob' shirt?" --probably a terrorist, let's check the bags" "Middle Eastern man with corresponding last name, bought a one-way ticket with cash?" -- he's in line during my random search of the 8 year old.

So, when you tell me you get bullets and razor blades through accidentally I am not surprised. But I will warn you about accidentally carrying on that fingernail clipper with it's little cuticle cleaner. I saw a lady who had to either break it off and leave it or toss the whole thing. I broke it for her, resulting in a shockingly sharp edge that was admitted through.

And then the idiot screener said "Well I guess it is all worth it." What a bunch of CRAP. We are no more secure now than before... just inconvenienced. </rant>
 
Airports...

They scare hell out of me these days, and not because the security screeners were trained by the lowest bidder. The two things that freak me out (using Baltimore-Washington International as an example, as I've been there most recently) are A) the TSA employees, who to a man are at least a hundred pounds overweight and are clock-punchers if ever I saw a clock-puncher and B) the very fact that now that suicide bombers are a reality, we have a location in every major city filled with innocent people that accepts as perfectly natural people accompanied by huge containers. So what if the people on the planes are okay, theoretically? There are hundreds of people in open concourses with no cover - essentially sitting ducks if a nut-job walks in the entrance to the airport and blows himself up.

That scares me.
 
The Ti Pencil.

Does anyone know if Kyocera puts anything in their ceramic kitchen knives to make them magnetically detectable? The cheaper ones (which still ain't cheap) have plastic handles with no rivets. Mission knives used to sell ceramic knives, but unless you were military or law enforcement, you got one with a metal strip in the handle . . .
 
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