Stud lock miss.

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gomipile

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The Kershaw stud lock used on the Mojo and Spec Bump seems to be one of the only lock designs that could be used to make a fully ambidextrous (as in symmetrical locking mechanism left-to-right) flipper knife with flow-through pillar design.

However, the stud locks I've seen have a big ol back spacer instead of pillars.

Has any other design hit this target, of a flow-through flipper design with a symmetrical ambidextrous locking mechanism?
 
Are you asking for an actual knife that meets those criteria, or just for a lock design that could, in principle, be used to make such a knife? If the latter, it seems like the Hawk/Reeve Ti-Lock would work.
 
neuron said:
Are you asking for an actual knife that meets those criteria, or just for a lock design that could, in principle, be used to make such a knife? If the latter, it seems like the Hawk/Reeve Ti-Lock would work.
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Both, really. And yes, that lock definitely looks like it could work.
 
In order for the Speedsafe to function correctly, you have to have the backspacer to house the nub of the torsion bar for tension buildup.

The only way you could have pillar construction would be for the torsion bar to be completely redesigned so that it was housed within the handle itself, just like the Kershaw Blur.
 
I think the bigger opportunity they missed here was more clip options. They have an ambidextrous lock, but the clip is fixed to only suit right-handers. Not that it matters for me...
 
For how weak the deployment on the Spec-bump was I could have done without the speed-safe. Same problem with both of my ZTs, it just bugs me when springs are so weak. :thumbdn:
 
Uz4u said:
For how weak the deployment on the Spec-bump was I could have done without the speed-safe. Same problem with both of my ZTs, it just bugs me when springs are so weak. :thumbdn:
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Just get another one from Kershaw. All three of my bumps kick pretty hard. Not amazing hard, but I'm satisfied.

If you want a SYMMETRICAL lock with a flow through design, I'm supposing your exempting the axis lock etc because it is nested behind the pivot?

But if you're looking for an ambidextrous lock generally, any will do. They can all be easily opened with either hand.
 
Artfully Martial said:
Just get another one from Kershaw. All three of my bumps kick pretty hard. Not amazing hard, but I'm satisfied.

If you want a SYMMETRICAL lock with a flow through design, I'm supposing your exempting the axis lock etc because it is nested behind the pivot?

But if you're looking for an ambidextrous lock generally, any will do. They can all be easily opened with either hand.
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Ah, but I said a symmetrical lock, with flow-through and a flipper. :D

If you show me an Axis with a conventional flipper on the blade, I'll retake one of my university geometry classes.
 
gomipile said:
Ah, but I said a symmetrical lock, with flow-through and a flipper. :D

If you show me an Axis with a conventional flipper on the blade, I'll retake one of my university geometry classes.
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ah OK. well, the lock is assymetrical, but the CRKT ripple and eros are flowthrough and have flippers. That's pretty close.
 
Artfully Martial said:
ah OK. well, the lock is assymetrical, but the CRKT ripple and eros are flowthrough and have flippers. That's pretty close.
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The ripple is a gorgeous, amazing knife, but it's a framelock.

I don't hate asymmetrical lock knives, but they're not good for everything I do. Sometimes I like a knife that can be actuated with the exact same hand motion with either hand, it helps to not have to think about it much.

Oh, and while the Mojos and the Spec Bump need the backspacer for the speedsafe, that backspacer wouldn't be necessary for a manual flipper.

I'd love a stud lock manual flipper, is all I'm trying to say with this thread.
 
I had one a while ago, but can't remember... Is the SOG Vulcan flowthrough? It's an Arc-lock and a flipper... I think it was open in the back as well, but I'm not positive.
 
hoppingzombie said:
I had one a while ago, but can't remember... Is the SOG Vulcan flowthrough? It's an Arc-lock and a flipper... I think it was open in the back as well, but I'm not positive.
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I thought the arc locks were just like a curved bolt-lock, in that they only have a stud on one side of the handle?
 
Well then, now that I look at the Vulcan, it seems like a darn nice knife. I'll have to look into it.
 
gomipile said:
Oh, and while the Mojos and the Spec Bump need the backspacer for the speedsafe, that backspacer wouldn't be necessary for a manual flipper.
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Or for an assisted flipper that used Benchmade's Nitrous assist mechanism, which is built into the liners. One of the things I really like about my Nitrous Stryker is its flow-though design.
 
gomipile said:
The ripple is a gorgeous, amazing knife, but it's a framelock.

I don't hate asymmetrical lock knives, but they're not good for everything I do. Sometimes I like a knife that can be actuated with the exact same hand motion with either hand, it helps to not have to think about it much.

Oh, and while the Mojos and the Spec Bump need the backspacer for the speedsafe, that backspacer wouldn't be necessary for a manual flipper.

I'd love a stud lock manual flipper, is all I'm trying to say with this thread.
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Is there any reason you can't just remove the spring and then remove the backspacer? My mini mojo had disabled AO and it worked great, but i never attempted to remover the spacer.
 
Artfully Martial said:
Is there any reason you can't just remove the spring and then remove the backspacer? My mini mojo had disabled AO and it worked great, but i never attempted to remover the spacer.
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Because I'd rather pay less for a manual knife that the manufacturer didnt have to pay to install an assist in? :D

If we're going to go into what my perfect idea for this kind of knife would be, it would be the following:

1. About the size of a Mini Mojo
2. Stud Lock
3. Pillar construction
4. Manual flipper
5. Full flat ground blade in 14C28N
6. Similar build quality to a Zing, similar price to a Needs Work
7. Cheap handle scale material to keep price low

I know, Kershaw avoids FFG blades like they're leprous, but I can dream, can't I?
 
gomipile said:
Because I'd rather pay less for a manual knife that the manufacturer didnt have to pay to install an assist in? :D

If we're going to go into what my perfect idea for this kind of knife would be, it would be the following:

1. About the size of a Mini Mojo
2. Stud Lock
3. Pillar construction
4. Manual flipper
5. Full flat ground blade in 14C28N
6. Similar build quality to a Zing, similar price to a Needs Work
7. Cheap handle scale material to keep price low

I know, Kershaw avoids FFG blades like they're leprous, but I can dream, can't I?
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As far as I know, only three production knives with stud locks were ever made--the Bump Line, the Offset and the Mini Mojo.

I think your best bet is to commission a custom by Ken Onion.
 
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