Studding your pets out? (especially cats)

[Walking Man]

I know it's a whole different world to breed cats vs. dogs. So I'll just about cats, and if dog people can contribute anything please do so.
Let me first say that I'm not sure that my cat is even desirable to be studded with other cats (but he might), but I thought I would throw this out here before I go any further.
My real question is, Is it worth it to stud a male cat out? I understand that when unneutered, they spray. Is there a way to control this? Is the monetary gain worth any headache of cleaning up cat urine? Also, is it worth putting up with a cat that is anxious to get out and is more active and aggressive?
My inclination is to NOT stud him out unless it's really worth it. I'm just looking for ideas/ experiences. Thanks.

 

[mete]

That reminds me of ads you used to see in the newspaper at one time "Pet rock stud service " !!!

 

[Ashes]

What kind of cat?

~ashes

 

[Point44]

I know it's a whole different world to breed cats vs. dogs. So I'll just about cats, and if dog people can contribute anything please do so.
Let me first say that I'm not sure that my cat is even desirable to be studded with other cats (but he might), but I thought I would throw this out here before I go any further.
My real question is, Is it worth it to stud a male cat out? I understand that when unneutered, they spray. Is there a way to control this? Is the monetary gain worth any headache of cleaning up cat urine? Also, is it worth putting up with a cat that is anxious to get out and is more active and aggressive?
My inclination is to NOT stud him out unless it's really worth it. I'm just looking for ideas/ experiences. Thanks.

Neutering the cat is no guarantee that he won't spray. My mom has this cat...BLACKY...who used to pee a lot around the house. Couldn't stop him. Then my bro-in-law suggested neutering 'cos he read somewhere that it's supposed to stop them spraying. THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE. After neutering he started spraying more. It's not just spray a bit here and there. It's A LOT EVERYWHERE.

Don't have that problem with the others cats though. My mom has 12 now i think. A couple of mixed persians and a new American Short Hair (Cammy) given by someone. The others are mostly strays and the ones that the older cat Misty gave birth to. The grey coloured one is Misty and the other is Cammy. I think Misty is my mom's favourite 'cos she's the first and the one with most character. Kinda like the queen of the house now.

 

[DaveH]

I can only comment on dogs. Alot of people think they 1) have the greatest dog that ever was and 2) they're going to make money by breeding them.

The reality is the vast vast majority of people do not have dogs of the quality that should be bred, this includes people that have pure bred and "show quality" animals. Self decepetion is a wonderful thing.

Breeding should be done in order to obtain the best quality, I doubt that stud fees would contribute significantly to anyone's income, you would have to have THE BEST animal and you would probably have to freeze the sperm during the time that sperm quality is highest. Usually people do this when they are in the breeding business as it's not for casual undertaking.

Rather then stud fees, many breeders opt to co-own the results, so you don't get any money from stud fees, you instead might have a percentage of the results after sale of the offspring.

IMO you'd have to have a super wonderful recognized as such cat, and be serious about it.

However many people are defacto puppy/kitty mills and they can live with themselves and make money at it.

 

[Walking Man]

Ashes, I am 99% sure the cat we have is a Bengal. It was a freak occurance that my wife just happened to pick this cat up. We had no idea what he was. He has a Bengal tabby coat, see this thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362912&highlight=bengal
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Point 44. The trick is get your boys neutered before they start spraying. I think it's supposed to be done before they turn 6 months old.
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Dave H, I really think that because of the relative scarcity, and desirability of this breed that this cat might make the grade, from what I understand a Bengal doesn't have as many required standards as other cats, but need only exhibit certain "wild" characteristics to be considered a quality cat, because it is a mix of domestic and wild cats. Also, I'm not talking about breeding, I'm talking about pimping the little guy out. . There are enough breeders out there, and I know I don't want and don't have the time to run after kittens. Nor do I want the headache and expense of vet. bills.

 

[mycroftt]

Point 44. The trick is get your boys neutered before they start spraying. I think it's supposed to be done before they turn 6 months old.

You're right. If they've already started peeing all over the place, neutering them won't change that behavior. You have to get it done before they start exhibiting "male" behavior.

Let this be a lesson to all the women in our lives as well.

 

[Ashes]

Ashes, I am 99% sure the cat we have is a Bengal.

I'm sure your cat is beautiful and all, but that isn't enough... If you want to use him for breeding purposes, he needs to be registered. He needs papers. It doesn't sound like you had this opportunity.

As far as neutering cats go... If you neuter them while young it may work to prevent spraying. If you wait until he is older and is already used to spraying, it is less likely that he will stop this behavior. The only thing I can think of is to go over the options with your vet, and maybe more than one to get a "second opinion" but I've found that, in general, cats that are spayed/neutered are better pets. My cats were spayed young (I believe it was TOO young) at the shelter before I got them. I had my dog spayed at seven months. (The cats were spayed at about seven WEEKS!)

One more thing... I grew up on a farm and have taken care of at least a hundred "barn cats" that people had dropped off, and I've even found abandoned kittens that I nursed in my bedroom when I was less than ten years old. During the whole time, those cats came and went, but I had a male (neutered) cat that I got when I was four and who lived to be 19 years old. He was our only "indoor" cat and I believe we had him neutered at about 6 months (so my mother tells me.)

~ashes

 

[Walking Man]

I'm sure your cat is beautiful and all, but that isn't enough... If you want to use him for breeding purposes, he needs to be registered. He needs papers. It doesn't sound like you had this opportunity.

I don't think I'm going to bother, since I haven't heard anything really positive yet.
Also, IIRC, if you have an animal that you believe is a certain breed you can have a DNA test done and get the papers from your vet.

 

[Walking Man]

After coming back from the vet today to get vaccines, I'm now certain I'm not going to pursue this any further. It's too hard to determine if a particular cat is 100% or not without a DNA test, because it's already wild cat + domestic tabby. He really a unique cat, so I'll just appreciate him for whatever he is.
Thanks for the info!