Sub Frame Lock?

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KNOCKOUT:
Saw the specs at Knifecenter and it looks interesting.:thumbup: So I read but don't understand the Sub Frame Lock, got pictures?
 
Helps a lot! Thanks Thomas:).
This is very smart, I like it a lot. Security of a Frame Lock, built like a inset liner lock.
Is this the first?
 
Benchmade has something similar on their 755 mpr. I think they call it a mono lock.
 
Nope, I made a fool of myself for thinking that this was nothing new a few months ago.

The lock-bar is not part of a liner, it's slotted into the handle scale. I haven't seen one disassembled but the lock-bar shouldn't be much bigger than what you can see.

Edit: You can see two screws under the clip, chances are those are what secures the lock-bar in place.
 
RByers91 said:
Benchmade has something similar on their 755 mpr. I think they call it a mono lock.
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knivesandguns said:
It's not really similar though, when you think about it :) This cuts the weight down much more than a simple G-10 slab over a Ti piece.
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Definitely not at all alike. According to the explanation of the Monolock on the Benchmade website -

MONOLOCK The monolock mechanism is basically a locking-liner on steroids. The knife liner is one in the same as the knife handle, and thus it is designed and made to function as the locking mechanism. Subsequently, a thicker material is used to provide enough surface area to be a functional handle, and in turn creates a larger surface area to lock the blade with. If executed properly, the monolock design rates very highly in strength and function.
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It is just their name for a framelock, the 755 MPR just adds a small piece of G10 to the end of the handle.

In Kershaws Sub Frame Lock, the lockbar looks to be a separate assembly from the rest of the handle slab, allowing for different materials appropriate for the task.
 
kneedeep said:
Definitely not at all alike. According to the explanation of the Monolock on the Benchmade website -



It is just their name for a framelock, the 755 MPR just adds a small piece of G10 to the end of the handle.

In Kershaws Sub Frame Lock, the lockbar looks to be a separate assembly from the rest of the handle slab, allowing for different materials appropriate for the task.
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Or the original name Reeve Integral Lock. I'm looking forward to this one. I've never owned a knife like this one.
 
RByers91 said:
Benchmade has something similar on their 755 mpr. I think they call it a mono lock.
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The Benchmade MPR still uses a full titanium scale where the lockbar and the rest of the handle are one piece. The G-10 is just an overlay that has been set in a recessed part of the full length Ti scale.

The Knockout's Sub-Framelock lockbar is a separate piece from the rest of the handle. It is screwed on via an inletted tab and several screws that are hidden under the clip. This concept allows for the security of a frame lock (your hand is pushing directly on the lockbar as you grip it) but makes for a much lighter knife than a full length steel or titanium framelock.

I hope this helps avoid any confusion. I think once we have some of these knives out in customers hands, the distinction will be easier to make.
 
Glenn and jimmer beat me to it. You will be pleasantly surprised to find this lock is something of a different flavor from the 755 MPR. I'm excited about getting one of these in my hands for the full experience. Cool idea!
 
gull wing said:
KNOCKOUT:
Saw the specs at Knifecenter and it looks interesting.:thumbup: So I read but don't understand the Sub Frame Lock, got pictures?
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If you want to see the Knockout demonstrated, you can go to about the 6:00 minute mark of this Nutnfancy vid and watch a cute little thang named Jen (from KAI) take you through it. She does a good job and that is a very interesting looking design. Gonna have to get me one of those....and one of those.....and one of those.....and one of those......

Blues
 
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