Successful Hunt and an Observation about Edge Retention

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I went hunting yesterday. I like to feed our dog game meat, so I appreciate it when I have the opportunity to shoot a goat. I generally would choose to shoot a big billygoat for the dog and leave the other goats alone to breed up and do their thing.

I spotted a small mob of goats at what I thought was maybe 200 yards away. To be honest, I don't really know how far away they were across the gully. I think I was better at judging distance when I used to regularly shoot on a range with open sights. But the goats were quite a distance off, even though they looked plenty big enough when I screwed my scope up to nine power.

I scanned the group for a likely male, and the only eligible one that I could see was a smallish (young) black billy. I figured that the dog could share this one with me if it looked tender enough. I chambered a cartridge in my Mossberg .308 and waited for the goat to move into position for a good shot. It cooperated, so I squeezed the trigger. With the recoil I didn't see exactly what happened. When I focused again I saw the goat walking apparently unharmed. I fired three more shots and none appeared to connect. The animal I was keeping my eye on didn't appear distressed and there was no bleating. This knocked my confidence. Up until now I hadn't missed anything with this new rifle. Maybe I'd knocked the sights.... or maybe the distance was a further than I thought and the bullets were shooting low.

Then I saw a larger black billy in a good position. I fired and saw it drop. All the remaining goats disappeared into the scrub. I lay there for a short time in case the goat moved, but it didn't. I stood up and saw another mob of goats just below me maybe fifty yards away. If I'd known they were there, it would have been much better to get one of them instead of having to recover an animal from a steep hillside covered with spiked vines and shrubs. I resisted the temptation to shoot at the new mob. I already had one goat and limited freezer space. I didn't want to be greedy, and I only had two cartridges left anyway.

Keeping some landmarks in mind, I climbed towards where I thought I'd shot the goat. Before I reached the spot I found the smaller black goat that I'd shot at. It was dead. After a few more paces I found another dead young black goat that looked very similar to the first one. Then I found the bigger billy.

My shots were lower than I'd aimed, and it appears that two may not have connected. I had not been aware of the second small black billy when I first saw the mob. It must have been in a hollow or behind a bush.

I now had a lot of meat to get home. I dragged all three goats to a spot that was less steep and I skinned them and cut all the meat off the carcasses. It took quite a while, and the wet, muddy hillside was not an ideal place for the job. I managed to fit all the meat into my pack.

I had two knives with me... a BK9 and a small fixed blade in a nice plastic sheath. The BK9, as usual, proved its worth in clearing a space to work in. The little knife had not impressed me in the past. Although it was very sharp, it seemed to lose its edge quickly while cutting up an animal. However, this time I skinned and boned out all three animals and the knife stayed sharp enough for the whole operation. I'd sharpened this knife a while back, and I wish I could remember for sure what I did that was different (I sharpen a lot of knives). I think in the past if a knife took a shaving edge with a steel, then I felt that it was in good shape for whatever I needed to do. I think what I did prior to this hunt, was to sharpen the flat-ground blade on a stone and then apply a micro-bevel by dragging backwards on a fine stone.

Perhaps the original 'factory' flat ground edge was a bit too fine and allowed the edge to curl when I hit bone. I seem to recall seeing a glint of light along the edge of the dulled blade with my naked eye. Anyway, now that I'm aware of the difference I have some good food for thought. I'd previously classified this little knife as 'crap', but I kept using it because of its nice hygienic factory sheath. I have a much higher regard for the knife now.

Here's a pic of the goats. I must have got my hand or my phone cover in the way when I took the picture.

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Cool story. I enjoyed reading it.

What was the small knife? Of course, I love seeing your BK9, but I want to see the other one too!
 
Yeah, no fair not naming the little knife! :D

I know you didn't intend to harvest so much, but glad you were able to pack it all out. Nice job!
 
The little knife is a Mora. I like the hygienic sheath, and the knife is a handy size for skinning and butchery work in the field. I can scrub the inside of the sheath with a bottle brush.

The sheath clips over a belt or the edge of a pocket etc. One day when I was setting some traps, the sheath fell to the ground with the knife in it. It took me a long time to find it in the undergrowth... even though I hadn't moved far from where I'd dropped it. I guess the 'military' colour scheme appeals to some and may be useful in some circumstances, but if I'd had a lighter coloured model I would have saved some time.

I hasten to add that I would give this knife away long before I parted with my Beckers.

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The little knife is a Mora. I like the hygienic sheath, and the knife is a handy size for skinning and butchery work in the field. I can scrub the inside of the sheath with a bottle brush.

The sheath clips over a belt or the edge of a pocket etc. One day when I was setting some traps, the sheath fell to the ground with the knife in it. It took me a long time to find it in the undergrowth... even though I hadn't moved far from where I'd dropped it. I guess the 'military' colour scheme appeals to some and may be useful in some circumstances, but if I'd had a lighter coloured model I would have saved some time.

I hasten to add that I would give this knife away long before I parted with my Beckers.

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Gotta love those things. They do some serious work for the slim investment. You were probably having edge rolling issues because it is a thin zero grind from the factory. I'm guessing you put a micro bevel on it (intentionally or not) while sharpening it, adding durability to the edge. I'd say that's why you noticed the improvement.
 
Haha, that's a good story, you're sure stocked on goat meat now.

Temps are finally letting up here, gonna start hunting this coming weekend, hope I'm as successful as you!
 
I grabbed a Mora electrician. It's so lite it's like it not there. I clip it to the outside of my pocket, the sheath makes really easy access. It gets abused a lot. For $12 it's a steal. Easy to get a working edge back after scraping paint off steel pipe, skinning wire, Sheetrock, wood, plastic,
Cutting paint from around panel covers and screws, cutting boxes, you name it. Saves wear and tear and abuse from my 11. Between that and my 11, I got it covered for work.


 
I think you are correct CoolBreeze. I've generally favoured having fine edges on my knives. While this suits knives that barely touch a hard surface, it isn't the best edge for general purposes.... and especially for a knife that is going to be pushed against bone.

Heh. I've just put out a fire with baking soda. its the first time I've done it, and I was impressed with how well it worked. I had made a big pot of stock with the leg and shoulder bones from the goats. I then wanted to scorch the bones so I can crush them to make phosphate fertilizer for the garden so I put them in the gas barbeque. Even though they'd been simmering in water for maybe six hours, they still contained enough fatty marrow to create quite a blaze. I'll rinse the baking soda off the bones before I attempt to make my fertilizer.
 
I look forward to reading some hunting stories and seeing some photos Cold One. I'm wondering if GraniteStateOfMind has decided to get a licence this year. There's always next season if it doesn't work out this time.

Yeah, those Moras come out in a variety of useful configurations. I guess they are relatively inexpensive down here too... but not as cheap as the USA it seems. I think that one I have was retailing for around NZ$38 maybe two years ago. That electrician model would be handy... and quicker to use, and safer and stronger than many folders.

I'm sure a little Becker would do all the jobs that Moras and folders can do... plus bring some good medicine to the occasion.
 
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I look forward to reading some hunting stories and seeing some photos Cold One. I'm wondering if GraniteStateOfMind has decided to get a licence this year. There's always next season if it doesn't work out this time.

Yeah, those Moras come out in a variety of useful configurations. I guess they are relatively inexpensive down here too... but not as cheap as the USA it seems. I think that one I have was retailing for around NZ$38 maybe two years ago. That electrician model would be handy... and quicker to use, and safer and stronger than many folders.

I'm sure a little Becker would do all the jobs that Moras and folders can do... plus bring some good medicine to the occasion.

Great story, coote. Ya gotta love the Moras. And the LightMyFire Moras are even more lovable with the little firesteel tucked into the handle - totally kills it for starting a blaze.

So, I did get my deer tag (and a turkey tag - which is 1/2 of a tag, since I missed the spring season) but my bow was broken for about 2 months (into the first coupla weeks of hunting season, no less) - and now work is stoopid nutty and I'm not sure when I can even get out. 50-60 hr. work weeks and on call for a week every 3rd week....not much free time. Had to call in some favors just to go to the Northeast Gathering this weekend. That plus I'm a total newb and don't really even know where to start....a friend who no longer hunts has offered to take me to a place and help me scout it out, but I can't seem to find the time. Still a couple months left, tho, so there's still hope.
 
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New Zealand hunters.;)
 
A BK9 and a Mora Companion can accomplish much!

I have two Mora Companions (both carbon) and while one is the cool green and black - the one I take hunting is blaze orange ... for exactly the reason you mentioned.
 
I didn't realize I was being filmed Cold One. That's me on the left.

I bought that Mora from a company I was working for at the time. I figured that I should grab it while I could get a staff discount. I've never seen any Moras with blaze colors, but I've noticed some Bahco knives in bright orange. I have a feeling the two brands are fairly closely related.

I hope that things work out happily regarding your hunting GSOM.
 
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