Successor of the #110

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Chicahiro Ishida

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I have expected Microtech SOCOM crip point "successor of BUCK #110".
But today,I hared that Microtech stop to produce SOCOM crip (Not reliable).

After spyderco revolution,I expect to come a item can be STANDRED of folder as the #110.
I think SOCOM crip, Emerson CQC-7 crip,commander, and Gerber E-Z-OUT are candidates,SOCOM crip is the best.
But---no item can be the succssor---

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Chic Stone
 
The 110 is a hard act to follow. So many made and so many people copied it and sold their copies too!

A successor, possible the CRKT folders in the way of production knives.

But I feel that the next logical step would be the Sebenza for plain no nonsense knife, tough enough for anything.

G2

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"The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions!"
Take the time to read your Bible Now, don't be left behind...

G2 LeatherWorks
 
Although I plan on getting a Sebenza this summer, I don't see it as the 110's successor. The successor to the 110 has to have a price that would allow it to be sold in the K Marts, Wal-Marts, Sears, etc. of the world. The price would have to $50 or less to be a mojor player on the mass market.
 
cutfinger,
EXACTLY! The knife would absolutely have to meet those criteria. It would have to be affordable to the non knife nut masses and have the widespread distribution that Buck enjoys with all the Marts and the Sporting Goods Stores, Hardware Stores, etc. etc. It would have to have the overall quality that Buck has with the 110. Edge holding, lock-up, quality materials and so on.
Those bolsters on the 110 are a very eye-pleasing aesthetic touch that also add great strength to the design of the piece.
The Buck 110 has looks, strength, above average edge holding, is comfortable to handle and use, a good locking system all in one package. A tough act to follow indeed!
Now, it can be found with BG-42 for blade steel!
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There can be no stopping this monster now!

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The individualist without strategy who takes opponents lightly will inevitably become the captive of others.
Sun Tzu
 
Ishida-san, there will never be a successor for the Buck 110. When introduced back in tghe old days, it was a totally revolutionary knife, a folder that locked back so it was nearly as safe to use as a fixed blade, was inexpensive and universally easy to find. In my desk drawer I keep a Buck 112 (Ranger) that is the smaller version, much more acceptable than the 110 in business settings. The 110 found its way into the hands of motorcycle outlaws, warehouse workers, carpenters and hunters all. It is the perfect ideal of the American workman's knife and also the american sportsman's knife. Literally anywehre you go in this counrty you will likely see the trademark belt pouch on someone around you. I can still easily find them for $29.95 US at the local sporting goods store. No Microtech will ever be that price and as easy to find, and I highly doubt you will find millions of people willing to abuse their $200 knife as they will their Bucks.

As for any other contenders, I doubt it guys, remember that when the 110 was born, there was no other choice on the market like it and today, literally there are thousands of pocket/ clip/ sheath carry knives available. Spyderco came closest in my opinion with the first model Endura, inexpensive, lots of them around, but then they introduced more and more models to the point where they are way overspecialized and I fully believe that their ATS 34 and 55 models are far more fragile than the AUS8A models of yore.

We may be seeing the end of an era and I have at all times in the past 20 years owned and used (beat on) a Buck 110 or a copy thereof. It is an American icon, the likes of which we will never see again. I carry an Endura daily, but I will always treasure my 110, for it will still be going when I have broken my favorite plastic handle, and for less dollars expended.

One other thing guys and gals, my 112 I found in the in-law's garage with the blade broken off at the point. I tried reshaping it but it looked silly, so I sent it off to Buck and they replaced the blade for the cost of shipping it there. Chris Rreeve and some of the other custom folks will do maintenance and clean up on your knife, bu this buck had been broken. I could not tell that the blade had been removed and replaced on the knife when I got it back.

Ishida-san, hope this helps a bit. Also, drop me a line and let me know if the Bowie question ever got resolved for you. My Bagwell custom if awesome and I highly recommend his work to you.

Parker
 
How great TRADE NAME #110 was!!
Not only a knife,!!

And all,if you design "Successor of the #110",how it will be?
You tald afordability important,less than 50$!And blade steel?440c for cost,or 154-CM?Style,most grace knife is just Sebenza.
But,how down cost to 50$?
#110 is so great to---.

Gary,
I felt CRKT is good for affordability,but I could'nt feel grace.

For technical and beautifulness,I agree you Sebenza is good successor.But Sebenza is so expensive!Affordability is strong point,as cut finger said.

misque,

So--how do you think,if an item is complate in current tech and affordable enough,it can be exprosion for many Mart or stores as the #110 was?
It never?

Parker,
Now I feel that right,#110 is only one in history as the Nativity.
Now I learned how great #110 was more!
For affordability,Now SOCOM is $200,if produce million,it can be 40$?But,many tactical ves are not produced many!

You said about times,I understand.

>Ishida-san, hope this helps a bit.

Yes,this is help for me!

>Also, drop me a line and let me know if the Bowie question ever got resolved for you. My Bagwell custom if awesome and I highly recommend his work to you.


Excuse me,you know that I am not so good at English.My TOEFL max was only 500.
I cannot surely understand "drop me".
"Drop" have so many mean on Webster, maybe "to write and send"?
If so, the Bowie question, your words were great help to understand more,Thanks!!

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Chic Stone
 
Cut-Finger, I agree the price is pretty high to be on equal ground with the 110, that's why I listed the CRKT first in my list, but as Chic Stone said I also really don't feel the `Grace' with those knives, but the Sebenza I feel is sort of ground breaking and robust enough, though pricy.

Buy hey, the 110 is still around and with better steel, so maybe we are looking for something that is already there, I know they still sell a lot of them!

G2

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"The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions!"
Take the time to read your Bible Now, don't be left behind...

G2 LeatherWorks
 
Chic Stone, by "Drop me a line" I do mean "write me a note." Good reminder that these boards are in fact international, but beleive me your English is much better than my Japanese ever will be. Or my Korean. Or my Spanish. Or my German. Maybe a T-score of about 6 for me...

Mr. Bagwell actually called me once to tell me he was pleased with the information being passed around in your Bowie thread...should you have any further questions about the Bowie knife I can try to answer them...email me through my profile address. I have one or two other Bowies for you to try in your quest...the ontario knife company "Hell's Belle" is very close to the real one, and for a lot less. Also, try the Gambler by Ontario if you like a smaller knife. It is about two inches less in the blade and a different feel in the hand. Lighter, but the Bowie will always be about momentum. A knife like that does not concern itself so much with edge retention as it does with putting the blade through the target. The mass and momentum will do the work for you.

Gotta run, get out and buy yourself a 110 before they stop making them (it will never happen!)I will accept the solid feel in my hand any day as reasuring and comforting.

Parker
 
Chic Stone,
I don't think that there will be a real successor to the 110. There are too many hurdles to overcome, not the least of which is the fact that the Buck 110 has been around for about 40 years and was the predecessor to the modern tactical folder explosion that we are enjoying these days, IMO. Of course, Bob Terzuola also spearheaded the tactical folder explosion, but, the Buck 110 was there too. Who came first, Buck or Bob, I don't know.

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The individualist without strategy who takes opponents lightly will inevitably become the captive of others.
Sun Tzu
 
Parker,
Yes,It was "Write you a male"!I will.

misque,
Oh,It was just as I felt undermind,It is impossible to succeseed the #110!


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Chic Stone
 
I don't see any knife today standing out as the 110 did and still does. I still see more 110 knives, or copies, in holsters on belts than I see knife clips in pockets or waistbands.

Oddly enough, I feel the "knife" that comes closest to doing what the 110 did is not actually a "knife." It is the Leatherman tool. Another really common holster knife I've been seeing on belts lately is the Gerber Gator.

Although I love the one-handers, it seems to me for the most part they still haven't caught on with the general public.
Jim
 
The Gerber Gator in ATS-34 is a really great knife. I'm somewhat surprised that I'm not seeing more of these on folks' belts. I see a few now and again. The ATS-34 Gator is a real sleeper. It's a shame because I don't think there is a more comfortable handle to be found on a folding knife anywhere.
And the blade shape...ohhh baby! That full height flat ground, thin edged, drop point blade is sweeeeet!
A really great sheath folder, IMO.

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The individualist without strategy who takes opponents lightly will inevitably become the captive of others.
Sun Tzu
 
Parker, I couldn't agree with you more. I had a SCHRADE knife that was in my father's tackle box after he died. I sent it to SCHRADE with a note asking that it be fixed.

After a few months (!) later I got a letter saying that they would fix the knife if I sent them a "shipping and handling fee" that was something like the cost of the knife!!!

I never got the knife back and I'll never buy a Schrade!!!

Long live Buck Knives Company !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by Nimrod (edited 07-22-2000).]
 
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